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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby Titans95 » Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:58 am

ninotoreS wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:18 am
Titans95 wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:40 am I'd say this is Arians team moving forward not Jason Licht's but that's speculation that doesn't really need to be argued over.
It doesn't, but... Arians was brought out of retirement, and so the ownership has to think he still has one foot out that door. So by that reasoning it seems unlikely he's been given total control. I don't know, though, ofc.
Your second comment about 373 touches is a little over 100 touches LESS than 30 touches a game Arians was trying to claim DJ would get.
Did Arians say DJ could get 30 touches in a game, or did he actually say he would get that EVERY game? I honestly don't know, and I doubt my google fu is good enough to find the quote you're referencing from presumably 3-4 years ago.
I'm not sure if you actually watched DJ and Peyton Barber? The two couldn't be farther apart except for their size. Blah blah blah straw man drive engage
My friend, visible size and power is the only point I made there. Did I not express that clearly? Ofc Barber and DJ circa 2016 are completely different levels of athlete.

Arians hasn't failed to focus on Barber's size and perceived power every time he's gushed about him, so it just appears to be significant to Arians. In an age where more teams are embracing unconventional RB logic, Arians still seems to want the more classic mold. And how that's relevant here in regard Barber, is in regard to his present known competition for '19 fantasy relevance: 205lbs Ronald Jones.
I get you can probably get Barber for a 3rd round pick and at that price it's not much of a risk but I'm just saying Barber isn't even close to DJ nor is there even a slight chance Barber is a long term solution for the Bucs at RB, Dude is a complete JAG.
Sounds like we agree, then! 8-)

Mostly. I suspect Barber might be an above-average runner if he has a mid-grade O-line. But long term solution? Unlikely. Like I pointed out in my last post, either one or both of Licht and Arians aren't very sold on Barber, or else they'd have locked him up for cheap for two or three years instead of just one.


p.s. I live in Knoxville. :ewink:
It's been a while but If I remember correctly he was trying to make a statement that he believes he can get DJ the ball 30 times per game or something along those lines. Obvious a ridiculous claim, Arians is an amazing football coach but I suspect he doesn't coach by analytics or numbers which is fine if he succeeds which he has in the past.

Your post came off that Barber was capable of filling the role that DJ played in Arizona, or at least that's how I read it so I apologize if I misunderstood. My point was that DJ is one of the most complete backs in the NFL and was used as such under Arians, I do not think Barber is anything other than a one dimensional plodder with subpar athleticism so I find it hard to believe Arians will be okay with just Barber as the lead back despite what he continues to say. When a coach gushes about a young player its never a bad thing but when I hear them gushes about a back like Barber it makes me feel like they are just trying to not get down on their roster in public. He's the epitome of replaceable and because they didn't go out and sign someone like Tevin Coleman for pennies on the dollar like SF did it makes me believe they are targeting a back in the draft.

But like I said a 3rd isn't much to lose regardless so if that's your buy low definitely go for it. I'd prefer to take my chances on other backs in that category.

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:41 am

Just bought Devonta Freeman to be my rb3 for Golden Tate and Devin Funchness
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker

picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5

team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd :wall:
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby jetsfan5757 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:21 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:41 am Just bought Devonta Freeman to be my rb3 for Golden Tate and Devin Funchness
Gives you great upside if he rebounds well. Between him, Williams and Ingram someone should give you a very strong RB3
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)

QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble

K (1): M. Crosby

DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby Phaded » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:24 am

hockeyBjj wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:41 am Just bought Devonta Freeman to be my rb3 for Golden Tate and Devin Funchness
I dig it.

Freeman has proven he has top 5 upside.

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby killer_of_giants » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:46 am

Phaded wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:24 am Freeman has proven he has top 5 upside.
... with shanahan


still a good trade, i think he's a good RB1 if he can stay healthy.

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby dmac37 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:37 pm

I think Freeman is the perfect buy low for a team ready to win now needing a RB2/1 type. He is also young enough to pay dividends for about 3 years or so, seems like the FF community is too down on him for what he costs compared to the return.

I got him for my 1.8 and Foreman. Not dirt cheap and have heard him going for less but I think the combination of high floor and high ceiling is worth the injury concern.
12 Team PPR Scoring:
QB: Purdy, Pickett, Howell, Rodgers
RB: Bijan, Kamara, A. Jones Spears Allgeier, Tucker, Hunt
WR: ARSB, Ridley, Nacua, E. Moore, Hollywood, Addison, Mingo, Mooney,
M. Thomas, Gallup
TE: Hockenson, Ferguson
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DST: Ravens

12 Team Superflex PPR Scoring:
QB: Fields, Tua, Howell, White
RB: J. Taylor, A. Jones, Pierce, Swift , K. Miller, Hunt, Ford,
WR: Pittman, Deebo, Godwin, Ridley, Gabe Davis, E. Moore, Mooney, Toney, Q. Johnson
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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby smallxl » Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:10 pm

I love Freeman for a bounce back I traded DJ and Ebron for Golladay and Freeman. He'll be my RB1 this year
22-man, 12-team, 1 pt-PPR; Start 1-2RB; 3-4 WR; 1-2 TE

TEAM 1
QB: Prescott, Foles
RB: Barkley, P Barber, Duke, Gio Bernard, Gus, C Thompson, Breida, Ekeler
WR: A Cooper, Cooks, Lockett, C. Davis, Crowder, Chark, Stills
TE: OJ Howard

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby lukkynumber13 » Sat Apr 06, 2019 9:37 am

I’ve bought up Mike Davis, D’Onta Foreman, & Doug Martin for basically free.

Lesean McCoy I got for very cheap.

Out of all those guys, I feel confident I’d be able to cobble together a solid RB4 for bye weeks, or in case my starters get injured, etc
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby ninotoreS » Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:43 am

Davis ain't free anymore in my markets. That ship has sailed.
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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby TampaBay216 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 12:06 am

ninotoreS wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 11:43 am Davis ain't free anymore in my markets. That ship has sailed.
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Team 1
12 team IDP PPR Single QB

QB: J. Burrow, J. Love
RB: S. Barkley, A. Kamara, J. Williams
WR: C. Lamb, J. Jefferson, M. Evans, C. Godwin, A.J. Brown
TE: S. LaPorta D. Geodert, T. Kelce
DL: D. Hunter, C. Granderson, B. Chubb
LB: P. Queen, R. Smith, CJ Mosley
CB: J. Thompson, CJGJ, P. Adebo

Team 2
14 Team TEP SF PPR IDP

QB: P. Mahomes, A. Richardson , B. Young
RB: B. Robinson, J. Gibbs
WR: T. Higgins, M. Brown, D. London, D. Wicks, Q. Johnston
TE: D. Njoku, I. Likely

Picks: 24’ - 1.10 - 2.09 - 2.14 - 3.09 - 3.13

Team 3
12 team IDP SF PPR TEP

QB: L. Jackson, J. Hurts, B. Young, Rodgers
RB: B. Hall, J. Gibbs, I. Pacheco, A. Kamara
WR: P. Nacua, Deebo, JSN, Sutton, M. Brown
TE: T. Hockenson, J. Ferguson
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, R. Spillane, B. Wagner, D. Greenlaw
DB: J. Brisker, B. Baker, K. Moore
DL: D. Hunter, M. Garrett, K. Paye, Q. Williams

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:57 am

Davis was traded straight up for Adam Humphries in a league of mine yesterday. The guy had offered him to me for Duke, Keke Coutee and Dede in separate offers.

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:02 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:57 am Davis was traded straight up for Adam Humphries in a league of mine yesterday. The guy had offered him to me for Duke, Keke Coutee and Dede in separate offers.
Davis and Humphries are both just a level above roster cloggers IMO
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby ninotoreS » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:01 pm

Curious: will you still feel that way if Davis emerges from the NFL draft with his position on the depth-chart seemingly intact?
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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby Prison_Mike » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:03 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 1:02 pm
Jason3123 wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 7:57 am Davis was traded straight up for Adam Humphries in a league of mine yesterday. The guy had offered him to me for Duke, Keke Coutee and Dede in separate offers.
Davis and Humphries are both just a level above roster cloggers IMO
Two weeks ago, a friend of mine traded his 1.02 for Humphries & McGuire

...He's not my friend anymore
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12

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Re: Buy low RBs heading into draft

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:25 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Tue Apr 09, 2019 2:01 pm Curious: will you still feel that way if Davis emerges from the NFL draft with his position on the depth-chart seemingly intact?
No, if that happens then I think Davis has value as a desperation RB2/Flex but I doubt he has a role in-season that’s as big as what people are currently projecting for him.

But sure, there’s a chance he’s an asset in-season, which is why he’s a worthy guy to take a flyer on.
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
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