Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby whodunnit » Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:37 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
x2. Miller's upside is ridiculous. It's more on whether or not Trubisky can get it out of him.
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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby OhCruelestRanter » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:13 pm

whodunnit wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:37 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
x2. Miller's upside is ridiculous. It's more on whether or not Trubisky can get it out of him.
C’mon. Miller’s upside is “ridiculous”? Then what’s the upside of say, DJ Moore, a WR in his class who is a better athlete and despite being younger has been more productive? Do Christian Kirk, Courtland Sutton, and Calvin Ridley all have “ridiculous” upside? When you apply these terms to older, day two WRs fighting for targets from Trubisky on a team with a great defense that rarely has WR-favorable game scripts, then these terms no longer matter.

Sure, anything is possible, but this kind of hyperbole doesn’t help anybody.
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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby whodunnit » Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:57 pm

OhCruelestRanter wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:13 pm
whodunnit wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:37 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
x2. Miller's upside is ridiculous. It's more on whether or not Trubisky can get it out of him.
C’mon. Miller’s upside is “ridiculous”? Then what’s the upside of say, DJ Moore, a WR in his class who is a better athlete and despite being younger has been more productive? Do Christian Kirk, Courtland Sutton, and Calvin Ridley all have “ridiculous” upside? When you apply these terms to older, day two WRs fighting for targets from Trubisky on a team with a great defense that rarely has WR-favorable game scripts, then these terms no longer matter.

Sure, anything is possible, but this kind of hyperbole doesn’t help anybody.
Moore and Sutton have tremendous upside. I'm not so sure about Kirk and Ridley. But yes, Miller's upside is 'ridiculous'.
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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:16 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has at least as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
He’s not a WR1 type. I’m a big fan of shorter technicians at WR, but Miller isn’t good enough to be an offense’s long term #1.

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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:18 am

dynastyninja wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:16 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has at least as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
He’s not a WR1 type. I’m a big fan of shorter technicians at WR, but Miller isn’t good enough to be an offense’s long term #1.
What is a WR1 type?
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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:20 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:18 am
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:16 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has at least as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
He’s not a WR1 type. I’m a big fan of shorter technicians at WR, but Miller isn’t good enough to be an offense’s long term #1.
What is a WR1 type?
I imagine it's a group of wrs who are capable of finishing in the top 12

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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby Pac_Eddy » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:22 am

NoRiskItNoBiscuit wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:20 am
Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:18 am
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:16 pm

He’s not a WR1 type. I’m a big fan of shorter technicians at WR, but Miller isn’t good enough to be an offense’s long term #1.
What is a WR1 type?
I imagine it's a group of wrs who are capable of finishing in the top 12
The previous post said WR1 on his own team. That's not a super high bar. I think Miller can definitely be that.
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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby dynastyninja » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:29 am

Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:18 am
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:16 pm
ninotoreS wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2019 1:33 pm I wish people wouldn't claim totally made up percentage chances for a thing.

Considered independent of situation, Miller has at least as much chance to be an NFL offense's #1 guy as any other WR prospect traded up for in the NFL draft 2nd round with his skill-set and athleticism in today's NFL where 5'11" - 6'1" WRs are flourishing.
He’s not a WR1 type. I’m a big fan of shorter technicians at WR, but Miller isn’t good enough to be an offense’s long term #1.
What is a WR1 type?
For this discussion, a team's go-to receiver who they can rely on as their primary target. I see him more as a last year's Landry-type who would benefit from another primary target. I don't expect Miller to consistently win against opposing teams' top CBs.

This is turning into me looking like I think Miller is a bad receiver, which I don't. I own him (reluctantly). I just don't think he's the next AB, which I think owners are hoping for but don't want to say.

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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby Johnny B. Goode » Fri Apr 19, 2019 12:43 pm

Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:22 am
NoRiskItNoBiscuit wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:20 am
Pac_Eddy wrote: Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:18 am

What is a WR1 type?
I imagine it's a group of wrs who are capable of finishing in the top 12
The previous post said WR1 on his own team. That's not a super high bar. I think Miller can definitely be that.
IMO if Miller is a WR1 on the Chicago Bears, I dont see the Chicago Bears having significant success.

Miller is a solid wr. He may be a flex capable /wr3 fantasy wr. I agree with the assessment above, hea a wr who can do very well in the shadow of a true wr1. He is roughly only 1 year younger than Allen Robinson...

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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby Mr. Wizard » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:49 am

“The next AB” is a ridiculous label to try to put on someone, like “the next Gronk,” but I think a few users above are sleeping on Miller. I was super high on him BEFORE my Bears drafted him, and I saw a very nice player despite a rookie’s playbook struggles and a busted shoulder.

He’s not “the next AB” but he has a ceiling of Diet AB that I think is attainable. His footwork when he’s playing loose is just filthy.
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Re: Anthony Miller value?

Postby MrUbuto » Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:15 pm

Dont forget those sexy sexy giant hands. 🤭

Also why is everyone saying his situation is bad???

He has a super young big tall strong QB who can sling it.
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby FantasyFreak » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:45 pm

I bumped this, because I remembered it. To be totally honest, I didn't even realize it was Mike that wrote it. I didn't really agree with it at the time, but I am wondering now, post hype, how people feel about him. His injuries are even more of a concern now, but he came on a bit late last year. Where is his value? Is he a decent depth add if Foles gets a shot? He's going into year 3, and although he's older for a guy going into year 3, I'm wondering if he could be a Jamison Crowder type guy, who scores solid numbers but is relatively cheap.
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby AussieMate » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:50 pm

Biggest Takeaway from this thread is people were really low on Arob.
To Miller I think this has to be his year if it ever happens, I've always liked Miller's talent and I might try and buy fir cheap this offseason.

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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby CGW » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:24 pm

I bought him for a 2021 4th last year. Seems like a good gamble on the off chance he hits....although the QB situation still leaves a lot to be desired in Chicago.
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Re: Anybody Who Doesn't Get Anthony Miller Will Be Missing Out On The Greatest/Cheapest WR In Years

Postby DLF3000 » Fri Mar 27, 2020 10:39 pm

I sort of hope Edelman passes the torch to him on my team. But even with Miller having some big games so far, that offense is still horrific. Maybe it sucks less when Foles takes over.
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