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Re: Tyreek investigation
So a couple points of clarification.
1) She didn't just like start tweeting about the incident in general terms. She started by tweeting @ the Chiefs and asking if they were investigating the incident. Everything since then has just been replies to follow up questions people have been asking her.
2) Waiting for more solid sources is nice, but from a fantasy football standpoint obviously everyone is trying to collect info as quickly as possible. There are like 1000 Tyreek trades going on right now and he's still pulling in decent value, so if you want to believe her and it convinces you to sell, that window will be gone if more reliable sources report the same info.
3) Kevin Kietzman on KC radio said that what happened is Tyreek was spanking the child (possibly with a belt) and in the process of spanking the child was holding his arm behind his back and broke the arm, and the child was taken to the hospital. No idea how reliable Kevin Kietzman is if at all.
1) She didn't just like start tweeting about the incident in general terms. She started by tweeting @ the Chiefs and asking if they were investigating the incident. Everything since then has just been replies to follow up questions people have been asking her.
2) Waiting for more solid sources is nice, but from a fantasy football standpoint obviously everyone is trying to collect info as quickly as possible. There are like 1000 Tyreek trades going on right now and he's still pulling in decent value, so if you want to believe her and it convinces you to sell, that window will be gone if more reliable sources report the same info.
3) Kevin Kietzman on KC radio said that what happened is Tyreek was spanking the child (possibly with a belt) and in the process of spanking the child was holding his arm behind his back and broke the arm, and the child was taken to the hospital. No idea how reliable Kevin Kietzman is if at all.
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Re: Tyreek investigation
A consolidated thread on the known details or speculations regarding the situation.
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Re: Tyreek investigation
I don't blame anyone for getting as much info on the situation as possible, especially those that want to get out from under Hill ASAP. I just think its inappropriate to be tweeting about a situation like she is. She could have easily DM'd the chiefs, called the front office or found a more private way to contact them if she was really only trying to figure something out or let them know there was a serious issue going on. She could have also not replied to comments from other people. Just my opinion.Vcize wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 5:08 pm So a couple points of clarification.
1) She didn't just like start tweeting about the incident in general terms. She started by tweeting @ the Chiefs and asking if they were investigating the incident. Everything since then has just been replies to follow up questions people have been asking her.
2) Waiting for more solid sources is nice, but from a fantasy football standpoint obviously everyone is trying to collect info as quickly as possible. There are like 1000 Tyreek trades going on right now and he's still pulling in decent value, so if you want to believe her and it convinces you to sell, that window will be gone if more reliable sources report the same info.
3) Kevin Kietzman on KC radio said that what happened is Tyreek was spanking the child (possibly with a belt) and in the process of spanking the child was holding his arm behind his back and broke the arm, and the child was taken to the hospital. No idea how reliable Kevin Kietzman is if at all.
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Thanks for sharing, and sorry for your loss. I can accept that there are situations I look at as cut and dry that aren't always so. Something to think about I guess...cazzie33 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 17, 2019 7:26 am Anger management issues are a form of mental illness. Some fight against their natural reaction to strike out physically and want to get better , some take pride in being an intimidator and have no remorse for their actions. Too many lump them all together as the same person. I have no idea what either Mixon or Hill are truly like in private but both have shown a willingness to learn from their mistakes and educate themselves as well as others that violence against women or others isn't the proper way to handle their business.
Who knows what causes their rage to overcome them in a particular moment. Most likely they understand what they have to lose by committing these acts yet in the moment their brain shuts down logic & reason. It's a constant struggle to keep the demons at bay. To label them as "animals" and "garbage" that we should just throw in the trash makes us feel superior . They are just people that need help if they are trying to do better and make amends. Of course they should face consequences for their actions but we don't know the circumstances surrounding Tyreek's latest incident. Does he consistently treat his child horribly or did he just grab him too forcibly in an instantaneous reaction ? My dad snatched me up when I acted up as a child and would sit my butt down on the couch. Easily could've got me in an awkward position that might have caused me some pain but that doesn't mean he intended to. We don't know if that's the case here... Hell, don't even know if he did anything!
Hopefully none of you that are so willing to pass judgement off hearsay I hope no one in your family has mental issues. Their brains don't always operate like what we consider normal like ours. They can be wonderful and even more compassionate than ours 99% of the time. But when anger or depression sets in they will do acts that we can't wrap our heads around but to them seem as a solution to their problems. I know from personal experience as my son was beloved by many friends & family but suffered depression that would come in moments . He had kids too that he loved dearly but in another moment of depression felt they would be better off without him... so he took his life. Many times that same thought would come to him and he was able to overcome it and he sought out help. I'm sure he wishes he could've made it just go away but mental illness doesn't work like that. We talked often, daily and he knew that any day , anytime all he had to do was call when those urges hit him. He'd tell me that he knows he's loved and wanted me to know that it wasn't my or anyone else's fault but his brain just doesn't work like that. I'm guessing that Tyreek has a mental illness similar to that but instead of holding it internally he acts out in a physical way. His life is lived in a fish bowl so we are talking about him as if we know his character when we really don't. My son had tremendous compassion & character as attested to by many friends & family yet the most common comment from those at his services were that they had no clue he was anything but the happy go lucky always worrying about how they were doing kinda guy.
Sorry about the personalized long winded story but my point is often we don't know what those close to us have going on in their life much less a professional athlete. But somehow they can be treated as less than a human being because they have mental issues. Until we have definitive details I choose to believe that Hill wants to be better. If it turns out he is a sociopath like another Aaron Hernandez then by all means he shouldn't be walking round getting the benefits of a professional athlete. Also I get the fact Tyreek doesn't get the benefit of a doubt because of his past. Could be that this is the source of his kid's broken arm being reported to the police. That's human nature , some call it profiling but I'd call it good police work when we have definitive evidence of past physical abuse. Check it out to be sure the child isn't in imminent danger. Sucks for Tyreek if not true but he can't blame anyone but himself for people being suspicious and one would hope he understands that. Haven't heard of any response from him at all yet but I'm waiting for actual details that he is indeed at fault before burying him.
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So, apparently, Hill's son broke his arm back in January? Not March 14th.
The 'facts' keep changing. At this point, the only reliable info regarding any of this is on the police reports, and they tell us very little. There are a multitude of potential scenarios in accordance with those reports that would exonerate Hill.
So, apparently, Hill's son broke his arm back in January? Not March 14th.
The 'facts' keep changing. At this point, the only reliable info regarding any of this is on the police reports, and they tell us very little. There are a multitude of potential scenarios in accordance with those reports that would exonerate Hill.
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Re: Tyreek investigation
Who knows. What I did see after a quick scroll through her Hill-Tweets were the typical, complain on social media publicly about multiple businesses. Those types of people are usually of the same breed, seeking attention. If you have to resort to the internet, or even social media to express your poor experience with a business, send a direct message to them, those generally get resolved better than the whining to the public like a company is going to crumble. Even use some sort of review like a Yelp if you have to. These are the same types that my generation is famous for- the "If anybody looks at my child wrong, I will be in jail" types. Of course I could be completely wrong and this could have some credibility, but most people "concerned" with the child and not drawing the spotlight on themselves, would not Tweet @ the Chiefs.Vcize wrote: ↑Sat Mar 16, 2019 7:43 pm So just for some added insight on twitter, none of which is good for Tyreek.
1) The guy who originally broke the story is claiming that Tyreek himself is under direct police investigation. It's not just an investigation of an incident in general that Tyreek may or may not have been involved in. The investigation is targeting Tyreek directly.
2) The godparents of Tyreek's son seem to be implying that people within the family have told them Tyreek likely broke the kid's arm.
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I don't have a dog in this at all- don't own him, have never considered trading for or drafting him. I love how this thread blew up and everyone was metaphorically spitting on his value and now everyone's quiet.
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Re: Tyreek investigation
Nothing new has come out? Last piece of info is that he’s now being investigated in two separate incidents. Did something good happen that I missed?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:39 pm I don't have a dog in this at all- don't own him, have never considered trading for or drafting him. I love how this thread blew up and everyone was metaphorically spitting on his value and now everyone's quiet.
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About 5 hours ago, both the Police and DCF confirmed investigations are ongoing.fruity pebbles wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:48 pmNothing new has come out? Last piece of info is that he’s now being investigated in two separate incidents. Did something good happen that I missed?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:39 pm I don't have a dog in this at all- don't own him, have never considered trading for or drafting him. I love how this thread blew up and everyone was metaphorically spitting on his value and now everyone's quiet.
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Looking very bad here for Hill. Had to wonder given his past if it was going to be show back up in the future and it's sad for all involved, especially for his son and son's mother.
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I had just started checking in to fantasy football stuff and was surprised about the lack of activity in this thread. For the first day or so, everyone and their mother was giving their pessimistic/negative opinion and that suddenly stopped. I figured this thread would be regularly updated as different pro and anti Tyreek factions highlighted different news to support their positions and bash the opposite one.fruity pebbles wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:48 pmNothing new has come out? Last piece of info is that he’s now being investigated in two separate incidents. Did something good happen that I missed?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:39 pm I don't have a dog in this at all- don't own him, have never considered trading for or drafting him. I love how this thread blew up and everyone was metaphorically spitting on his value and now everyone's quiet.
I guess not.
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Well there's no point in going on and on weighting in on baseless speculation at this juncture. Until something new arises, it's best to just wait and see.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:18 pmI had just started checking in to fantasy football stuff and was surprised about the lack of activity in this thread. For the first day or so, everyone and their mother was giving their pessimistic/negative opinion and that suddenly stopped. I figured this thread would be regularly updated as different pro and anti Tyreek factions highlighted different news to support their positions and bash the opposite one.fruity pebbles wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:48 pmNothing new has come out? Last piece of info is that he’s now being investigated in two separate incidents. Did something good happen that I missed?Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:39 pm I don't have a dog in this at all- don't own him, have never considered trading for or drafting him. I love how this thread blew up and everyone was metaphorically spitting on his value and now everyone's quiet.
I guess not.
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So true, but look at the posts here the first day, and especially the day after. You'll see alot of speculation and trades based on that. Speculation hasn't stopped people from talking/acting so far.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:35 pmWell there's no point in going on and on weighting in on baseless speculation at this juncture. Until something new arises, it's best to just wait and see.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 9:18 pmI had just started checking in to fantasy football stuff and was surprised about the lack of activity in this thread. For the first day or so, everyone and their mother was giving their pessimistic/negative opinion and that suddenly stopped. I figured this thread would be regularly updated as different pro and anti Tyreek factions highlighted different news to support their positions and bash the opposite one.fruity pebbles wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 4:48 pm
Nothing new has come out? Last piece of info is that he’s now being investigated in two separate incidents. Did something good happen that I missed?
I guess not.
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His GF has removed all pictures of Hill from her social media accounts and no longer follows him.
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