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Re: James Washington Value

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Mar 08, 2019 9:23 pm

I'm guessing Pittsburgh takes a WR from this class on Day 1 or 2. James Washington has some things about him I like, but his rookie tape does not show a player that is ready to contribute on all three levels of the field. I'm tentatively looking at Martavis Bryant's past usage to frame my expectations for Washington in '19.
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby Shcritters » Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:36 pm

The person who I think stands to most to have a breakout season is Vance Mcd. They HAVE to run more now that AB is gone, and now the play fake comes into play even more. He’s been solid, and there are a lot of targets to go around now with no clear beneficiary. Even if they draft a 1st round WR he won’t have the chemistry/trust to get 120 targets from Ben
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby ColdZealDonkeyStrike » Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:54 pm

Shcritters wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:36 pm The person who I think stands to most to have a breakout season is Vance Mcd. They HAVE to run more now that AB is gone, and now the play fake comes into play even more. He’s been solid, and there are a lot of targets to go around now with no clear beneficiary. Even if they draft a 1st round WR he won’t have the chemistry/trust to get 120 targets from Ben
I agree. McDonald probably stands to benefit as much or more than Washington.
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby Hottoddies » Sat Mar 09, 2019 11:06 pm

ColdZealDonkeyStrike wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 10:54 pm
Shcritters wrote: Sat Mar 09, 2019 6:36 pm The person who I think stands to most to have a breakout season is Vance Mcd. They HAVE to run more now that AB is gone, and now the play fake comes into play even more. He’s been solid, and there are a lot of targets to go around now with no clear beneficiary. Even if they draft a 1st round WR he won’t have the chemistry/trust to get 120 targets from Ben
I agree. McDonald probably stands to benefit as much or more than Washington.
Until they draft a TE in the 1st round. They're only mock drafts, but I have seen couple people that have Pittsburgh grabbing TJ Hockenson in the first round.
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby koalabear » Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:48 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:48 am I got Washington off the WW last year, so holding and hoping for WR3 or higher.
What was he doing on waivers, guy was a top 16 rookie draft pick last year? Some dynasty players have zero patience!
1. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-3 RB, 3-4 WR, 1-2 TE. Yr 7
QB: Murray, Stafford
RB: Dobbins, Sanders, Pearce
WR: Jefferson, Burks, JuJu
TE: Goedert, Everett
2023: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th

2. 12 team 1pt PPR. Start 1 QB, 2-4 RB, 3-5 WR, 1-3 TE. Yr 6.
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RB: Akers, CEH
WR: Chase, M Brown, Pittman, M Williams
TE: Tonyan, Hooper
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby Prison Mike » Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:11 am

Looking long term, another thing that is working in Washington's favor is that Big Ben's current heir apparent is Mason Rudolph - Washington's college QB.

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Re: James Washington Value

Postby grandmabetty » Sun Mar 10, 2019 8:49 am

koalabear wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:48 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:48 am I got Washington off the WW last year, so holding and hoping for WR3 or higher.
What was he doing on waivers, guy was a top 16 rookie draft pick last year? Some dynasty players have zero patience!
My dynasty league is a contract league. Not uncommon to find talented young players on the WW that GMs decided they didnt want to sign. Dont know if this persons is

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Re: James Washington Value

Postby wickerkat1212 » Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:59 am

koalabear wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:48 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:48 am I got Washington off the WW last year, so holding and hoping for WR3 or higher.
What was he doing on waivers, guy was a top 16 rookie draft pick last year? Some dynasty players have zero patience!
Guy who dropped him has a stacked team, won it all last year, dropped Washington to pick up Adam Humphries. I dropped TJ Jones to pick Washington up. He was the 2.11 pick in our draft. <shrugs> Guess he didn't value him.
D3:
QB—Allen RB—Kamara, Jacobs, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Harrison, TILLMAN, Marshall, Jefferson TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington KRAFT PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC RB—BIJAN, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, HULL, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams, Allen, TILLMAN, Boyd, Woods, HUTCHINSON, DOUGLAS TE—Kelce, Kmet, Schultz, Parham PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Howell RB—BIJAN, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, HULL, GRAY WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, Myers, Hardman, Reynolds BOUTTE TE—Kmet, Smith, Hurst, Ertz, KRAFT PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: BIJAN, BRob, ZWhite, Hines, TDP, McLaughlin WR: Higgins, JSN, JWilliams, DJM, RMoore, DOWNS, Atwell, TILLMAN, BOUTTE, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, CJONES TE: Trautman, Ferguson, KRAFT, Hooper

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Re: James Washington Value

Postby gogobradyarm » Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 pm

wickerkat1212 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:59 am
koalabear wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:48 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 11:48 am I got Washington off the WW last year, so holding and hoping for WR3 or higher.
What was he doing on waivers, guy was a top 16 rookie draft pick last year? Some dynasty players have zero patience!
Guy who dropped him has a stacked team, won it all last year, dropped Washington to pick up Adam Humphries. I dropped TJ Jones to pick Washington up. He was the 2.11 pick in our draft. <shrugs> Guess he didn't value him.
I'm in a league with a guy that traded 1.06 for Humphries 9 weeks ago. Today he trades Humphries for 1.08, then I traded Washington to him for 1.08. Humphries is ridiculous in my league...

I drafted Washington with the 2.02 in the rookie draft last year. Feel turning it into 1.08 this year is a solid investment. I do like Washington, but I don't like Big Ben being older and him possibly fading this year or next. What I didn't think through is that Mason Rudolph was his college qb, and odds are Washington would benefit from the QB change ironically.
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby wickerkat1212 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:09 pm

gogobradyarm wrote: Mon Mar 11, 2019 7:41 pm
wickerkat1212 wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 11:59 am
koalabear wrote: Sun Mar 10, 2019 4:48 am

What was he doing on waivers, guy was a top 16 rookie draft pick last year? Some dynasty players have zero patience!
Guy who dropped him has a stacked team, won it all last year, dropped Washington to pick up Adam Humphries. I dropped TJ Jones to pick Washington up. He was the 2.11 pick in our draft. <shrugs> Guess he didn't value him.
I'm in a league with a guy that traded 1.06 for Humphries 9 weeks ago. Today he trades Humphries for 1.08, then I traded Washington to him for 1.08. Humphries is ridiculous in my league...

I drafted Washington with the 2.02 in the rookie draft last year. Feel turning it into 1.08 this year is a solid investment. I do like Washington, but I don't like Big Ben being older and him possibly fading this year or next. What I didn't think through is that Mason Rudolph was his college qb, and odds are Washington would benefit from the QB change ironically.
I grabbed Washington partly because I own Ben/Rudolph.
D3:
QB—Allen RB—Kamara, Jacobs, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Harrison, TILLMAN, Marshall, Jefferson TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington KRAFT PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC RB—BIJAN, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, HULL, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams, Allen, TILLMAN, Boyd, Woods, HUTCHINSON, DOUGLAS TE—Kelce, Kmet, Schultz, Parham PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Howell RB—BIJAN, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, HULL, GRAY WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, Myers, Hardman, Reynolds BOUTTE TE—Kmet, Smith, Hurst, Ertz, KRAFT PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: BIJAN, BRob, ZWhite, Hines, TDP, McLaughlin WR: Higgins, JSN, JWilliams, DJM, RMoore, DOWNS, Atwell, TILLMAN, BOUTTE, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, CJONES TE: Trautman, Ferguson, KRAFT, Hooper

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Re: James Washington Value

Postby lilpuppy99 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:35 am

wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:02 pm With Antonio Brown gone to the Bills, does James Washington make a leap this year? JuJu should be WR1 now. Thoughts?
He's on the Bills??
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:59 am

lilpuppy99 wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:35 am
wickerkat1212 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:02 pm With Antonio Brown gone to the Bills, does James Washington make a leap this year? JuJu should be WR1 now. Thoughts?
He's on the Bills??
Dude that's an old post. Premature story. FAKE NEWS! The deal got nixed by "Mr. Big Checks". He ended up on the Raiders.
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Re: James Washington Value

Postby wickerkat1212 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:22 am

Raiders now. More importantly, he's not in PITT.
D3:
QB—Allen RB—Kamara, Jacobs, Edwards, Ford, Warren WR—Lamb, Olave, DJM, Puka, Harrison, TILLMAN, Marshall, Jefferson TE—Ferguson, Schoon, Likely, Smith, Washington KRAFT PK—Prater DEF—BAL

D4:
QB—TLaw, JimmyG, Tannehill, AOC RB—BIJAN, Conner, Gainwell, Gainwell, HULL, ZMoss, Chandler, McLaughlin, Murray WR—Jefferson, Hill, Diggs, Adams, Allen, TILLMAN, Boyd, Woods, HUTCHINSON, DOUGLAS TE—Kelce, Kmet, Schultz, Parham PK—Butker DEF—PIT

Superflex 1:
QB—Mahomes, Rodgers, Mayfield, Howell RB—BIJAN, Kamara, Allgeier, Singletary, Mostert, BRob, Warren, HULL, GRAY WR—Chase, DJM, Devonta, Myers, Hardman, Reynolds BOUTTE TE—Kmet, Smith, Hurst, Ertz, KRAFT PK—Elliott DEF—PHI

Superflex 2:
QB: Goff, Cousins, Wentz, White; RB: BIJAN, BRob, ZWhite, Hines, TDP, McLaughlin WR: Higgins, JSN, JWilliams, DJM, RMoore, DOWNS, Atwell, TILLMAN, BOUTTE, SMoore, PCampbell, DPJ, ATP, CJONES TE: Trautman, Ferguson, KRAFT, Hooper

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Re: James Washington Value

Postby ebsteelers » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:24 am

Ice wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 6:21 pm
ebsteelers wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:33 am
Ice wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2019 8:07 am

Round 2 is High. Think they drafted JuJu and Washington in the 2nd.
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60 and 62 and prior to that it was limas sweed 10 years ago. every other wr taken was 3rd round or later.
more than likely if brown is gone they wont be taking a wr in round 2 and it'll be a later round. i think the avg. wr selection over the previous decade for them is round 4.
Draft is 7 rounds. By NFL standards any round 2 pick is considered a high pick. In fact, Round 3 picks are also considered high. This isn't fantasy. The NFL deals with 22 positions plus special teams and when they miss on picks in the first 3 round it hurts.

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Re: James Washington Value

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:18 pm

They will surely bring in a veteran whether it's Crabtree, Tyrell or a future cut. Maybe Agholor? No way do they go into the season with JuJU and Washington as the starters.


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