Josh Jacobs: Moving On Up

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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:24 pm

This draft is 100% situation-dependent. There's no one player who people are going to draft on talent alone at 1.01, like when Sammy went to Buffalo and still went 1.01.

If Jacobs lands in a great situation (let's say Philadelphia at 25) in the 1st round and Metcalf goes to Baltimore and AJ Brown goes to Buffalo, Jacobs will be the 1.01.

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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby Ice » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:29 pm

Jacobs needs to go to a great landing spot.

My guess is he is the first RB drafted. Sanders had a very good combine but will probably slip a bit due to ball security issues IMO. Jacobs has good tape and huge soft hands. His pass protection is solid and has excellent quickness, vision, power, and just great hands.

I will be surprised if he is not drafted round 1. A team will like having that 5th option.

Looks like a can't miss prospect to me. Has all the skill to be a legit 3 down back with 50+ reception upside as a rookie. Instant Impact player. He would be great with the Eagles but they never take RB's in round 1. Maybe this year. I think the Ravens make a lot of sense for him.

In one league I have the top 2 picks and he is definitely on my board. Sanders is as well if he goes to the right team but today I like Jacobs more. I will draft one of them most likely but not both.
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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby Phaded » Tue Mar 05, 2019 7:37 pm

He is my 1.01; not that it matters since I cannot get him anywhere.

People read too much into RB situation and until a year ago I was one of those as well.

In just the last couple years, guys like Kamara, Chubb & Mixon all overcame situations that looked rocky at best when drafted.

I am far more concerned about situations for WRs as they are directly tied to the QB throwing them the ball.

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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby M-Dub » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:10 pm

Can someone explain why the Eagles would be a desirable landing spot, fantasy-wise? All I’ve seen from Pederson throughout his tenure there is a dogged, borderline Belichickian commitment to a committee backfield.
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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby murphysxm » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:29 pm

M-Dub wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:10 pm Can someone explain why the Eagles would be a desirable landing spot, fantasy-wise? All I’ve seen from Pederson throughout his tenure there is a dogged, borderline Belichickian commitment to a committee backfield.
Agreed, not a spot I want a RB I covet to land. Always going to split touches,
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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby Cameron Giles » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:30 pm

M-Dub wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:10 pm Can someone explain why the Eagles would be a desirable landing spot, fantasy-wise? All I’ve seen from Pederson throughout his tenure there is a dogged, borderline Belichickian commitment to a committee backfield.
Well, they haven't really had a good back there to play on all 3 downs. Jacobs would represent that and a 1st round investment would likely mean some sort of significant workload. But, just an example though. Jacobs could easily get the 1.01 if people are enamored enough with the situation.

All it takes for a WR to get devalued is catching passes from Lamar Jackson, the Jacksonville QB, Washington's QB or Marcus Mariota or something.

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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 pm

murphysxm wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:29 pm
M-Dub wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:10 pm Can someone explain why the Eagles would be a desirable landing spot, fantasy-wise? All I’ve seen from Pederson throughout his tenure there is a dogged, borderline Belichickian commitment to a committee backfield.
Agreed, not a spot I want a RB I covet to land. Always going to split touches,
Is anybody expecting Jacobs to come in and be a Gurley/Bell like back? Splitting touches is fine, if it's in a great offense. Alvin Kamara has no issues with that. I don't think Jacobs is a 320 touch player. He's got the build for it, and has a 3 down skill set, but not sure anyone is drafting him with that in mind.
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Re: What does Josh Jacobs have to do to be the 1.01?

Postby schiewerma21 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:46 am

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The topic formerly known as "Josh Jacobs Pro Day"

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:33 pm

Reportedly ran 4.60 and 4.63, seen a reported 112 broad jump. Haven't seen any other reported numbers, but I wonder if the smarter decision would have been to just do position drills, as those numbers have to be a disappoint for him.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:40 pm

Gross. Not in my consideration for 1.01 at this point. He's not a good athlete in NFL terms. Carlos Hyde ran those 4o times and pulled his hammy, and was 10-15 pound heavier, I believe, too. Anyone who likes Jacobs may be getting him in the mid first, now.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:51 pm

This is why, if you are going to do the testing drills at all, you should do them at the combine first and give yourself a better chance at putting up great numbers. People like to say these numbers don't matter, but the data shows they do (to a degree), especially at the skill positions (I am only talking about draft position, not actual on-field performance, where there is a correlation, but its very loose, and is more about meeting minimums than it is that certain numbers mean you will be successful, which obviously isn't true, lol). Either plan to do both (and sit out the pro day testing numbers if you are happy with your combine numbers) or don't do it at either (unless injury dictates not working out at the combine, I guess).

Breshad Perriman didn't get drafted in the first because of his college tape, lol and Jarvis Landry slipped to the end of the second, despite his excellent college tape
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 pm

I mean Jacobs is profiling as a David Montgomery type athlete. I said it back in the fall, that Miles Sanders might be the best back in this class, and it's looks to be the case, as of now.
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:40 pm Gross. Not in my consideration for 1.01 at this point. He's not a good athlete in NFL terms. Carlos Hyde ran those 4o times and pulled his hammy, and was 10-15 pound heavier, I believe, too. Anyone who likes Jacobs may be getting him in the mid first, now.
I've seen people on football twitter comparing it to Eddie Lacy's numbers, who was at least 12 lbs heavier, coming off injury and admitted he was out of shape (does anyone remember when Lacy was in shape though? lol)
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:57 pm

tresskid84 wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:55 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:40 pm Gross. Not in my consideration for 1.01 at this point. He's not a good athlete in NFL terms. Carlos Hyde ran those 4o times and pulled his hammy, and was 10-15 pound heavier, I believe, too. Anyone who likes Jacobs may be getting him in the mid first, now.
I've seen people on football twitter comparing it to Eddie Lacy's numbers, who was at least 12 lbs heavier, coming off injury and admitted he was out of shape (does anyone remember when Lacy was in shape though? lol)
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Re: Josh Jacobs Pro Day

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Mar 19, 2019 1:00 pm

Considering the normal thing is to typically add about 0.05 seconds to pro-day times... yikes. So he’s potentially a 4.65-4.70 runner? Yuck
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