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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby tresskid84 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:10 pm

bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:51 pm James Williams
I know I included him in mine, but I'd be shocked if he lasted into any 4th round, the more I look at things.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby tresskid84 » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:14 pm

tresskid84 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:10 pm
bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:51 pm James Williams
I know I included him in mine, but I'd be shocked if he lasted into any 4th round, the more I look at things.
In PPR leagues anyway.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby HEADBANGER » Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:45 am

bsp27 wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 6:51 pm James Williams
He sure looked smooth at the Combine in every drill I saw. He stood out so would be a guy I am looking to take a flyer on in the 4th.
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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby CGW » Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:02 am

I second Miles Boykin. I have the 3.06 and would love him at that spot.
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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, SF

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WR | Puka, Olave, Smith, Flowers, Dotson, Addison
TE | Pitts, Otton, Bellinger, Likely, Okonkwo
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RB | K Williams, White, Monty, Herbert, Chandler
WR | Lamb, AJB, Puka, Waddle, Mooney, J. Williams, Watson, Davis
TE | Andrews, Bellinger, Dulcich
2024 | 1.04, 3.10

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QB, RB, RB, WR, WR, WR, TE, FL, FL, SF

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RB | ETN, Pacheco, K Williams, Singletary, Henry, A Jones, Warren
WR | ARSB, Wilson, Olave, DK, Puka, Flowers, Downs,
TE | Hockenson, Likely, Otton

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby Ice » Mon Mar 11, 2019 11:56 am

Phaded wrote: Thu Mar 07, 2019 5:21 am
Ice wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:12 pm
Phaded wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:08 pmMiles Boykin
Yes but don't think he will be there in the 4th.
You don't think so? How high do you think he will go in the NFL draft?
Could go late 2nd but think he is a near lock 3rd NFL pick. There is a lot to like. He is really raw with his first step but has a ton of long speed and looks like he will be coach-able. Think he is a mid to late 2nd round fantasy pick with upside if he goes to a good situation.

He really helped himself at the combine IMO.
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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby Jjipp » Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:48 pm

Ashton Dulin is a small school guy who showed well in the Combine.
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RB - L. Fournette, D. Cook, M. Breida, R. Freeman, Justice Hill, Dex. Williams, R. Burkhead
WR - K. Allen, S. Diggs, C. Davis, C. Kirk, Ty. Williams, Taywan Taylor, J'M Moore, A. Callaway, D. Cain, M. Boykin, B. Berrios, D. Bryant,
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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby Hottoddies » Tue Mar 12, 2019 8:05 pm

Jjipp wrote: Tue Mar 12, 2019 7:48 pm Ashton Dulin is a small school guy who showed well in the Combine.
Oh yes, the pride of Malone University... good luck with that one.
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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:28 pm

After doing more research and with more ADP data available, I thought I would re-visit this. My list of top 4th round fliers now goes something like this:

RB: Dexter Williams, Alexander Mattison, and Darwin Thompson
WR: Anthony Johnson, Gary Jennings Jr, Stanley Morgan Jr and Cody Thompson
TE: Caleb Wilson, Foster Moreau, and Keenen Brown

QBs, for Superflex, would be Finlay and Minshew.
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby Jason3123 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:38 pm

Looking at current ADP:

TE Jace Sternberger checks a lot of boxes at the TE position and I think he'll be a top 100 pick. I don't think his ADP will stay at its current level though.

RB Myles Gaskin - Not a big fan but he has 4 years of solid production at a PAC school. In a class filled with unathletic and unproductive players at least he checks the production box.

RB Ryquell Armstead - Size-speed RB. Ideal day 3 RB target based on his speed score alone.

RB LJ Scott - Auto pick for me with any round 3/4 picks I have.

RB Travis Homer - I think Homer will probably wash out of the league but I'll be taking him late if available. Super young RB, produced a bit, and I like the tape for whatever that's worth.

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby tresskid84 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:41 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Tue Apr 16, 2019 12:38 pm Looking at current ADP:

TE Jace Sternberger checks a lot of boxes at the TE position and I think he'll be a top 100 pick. I don't think his ADP will stay at its current level though.

RB Myles Gaskin - Not a big fan but he has 4 years of solid production at a PAC school. In a class filled with unathletic and unproductive players at least he checks the production box.

RB Ryquell Armstead - Size-speed RB. Ideal day 3 RB target based on his speed score alone.

RB LJ Scott - Auto pick for me with any round 3/4 picks I have.

RB Travis Homer - I think Homer will probably wash out of the league but I'll be taking him late if available. Super young RB, produced a bit, and I like the tape for whatever that's worth.
Didn't include Jace because I suspect the same as you. He is trending more towards being a mid to early 3
2021-Orphan Rebuild, 12tm PPR, SF, 1.75 TE Prem
2 SF, 8 Flex

QB: Mayfield, Z Wilson, D Jones, Heinicke, Rudolph, Foles
RB: Herbert, Felton, Evans, Nwangwu, Calais
WR: D Smith, Waddle, Chark, J Palmer, D P-J, Raymond, Washington, Jauan, Darden, Fehoko, Smith-Marsette, C Johnson, Proche, Shi Smith, A Tate, ESB, JJAW
TE: O'Shaughnessy, Moreau, Granson, Tyree J, Hu Bryant, Hopkins, Fortson
2022 Picks: 1.01, 1.04, 1.11, 2.01, 2.09, and 3.02
2023 Picks: six 1sts, my 2nd

2021-Orphan Rebuild, 16tm PPR, SF, 1.5pr TE, DEVY:
1 QB, 1 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 SF, 3 Flex
Draft is rookies and devy (only 2022 NFL eligible)

QB: Tua, Fields, Brissett, Foles, Purdy(D), T Morgan(D)
RB: Etienne, Gainwell, Homer, T Jones, J Hill, Ragas, Sargent, Calais, Funk,
WR: Cephus, Nico, J Palmer, Gage, Quez, P Williams, JJAW, Strachan, Proche, Lil'Jordan, Shi Smith, Fryfogle(D)
TE: Moreau, Maxx, H Long, RSJ, Tyree J
2022 Picks: 1.02, 2.02, 2.12, 3.02, 3.07, 3.10, 3.11, 3.12, 3.15, 4.01, 4.02, 4.05, 4.07, 4.12, 4.15

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby Flgatorguy87 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 1:06 pm

A lot of guys I am watching to see if they have any draft capital invested in them.

RB - Darwin Thompson
RB - Mattison
WR - Boykin
TE - Knox
QB - Minshew
WR - Emmanuel Butler
SF PPR 30 man roster 5 taxi 2 IR
QB, 3WR, 2RB, 2TE, 2FLEX , Superflex

A. Rodgers, J. Goff, D. Lock, Ta. Hill

O. Beckham, Antonio Brown, M. Evans, A. Robinson, S. Diggs, C. Sutton, T. Boyd, Jakobi Meyers, S. Sims Jr., Darius Slayton

S. Barkley, Da. Cook, Cam Akers, JK Dobbins, R. Penny, Ronald Jones, W. Gallman, Duke Johnson, AJ Dillon, Darrynton Evans, DeeJay Dallas, L. Perine

G. Kittle, M. Andrews, H. Hurst

Taxi: R. Armstead, Joe Reed, L. Bowden Jr., I. Coulter, Scotty Miller

2021 - 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 3rd, 5th

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby jdomer2403 » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:21 pm

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby whodunnit » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:25 pm

a lot of people have Boykin falling to the 4th. I'd take him no later than 2.04, personally. as for 4th round fliers; If Stanley Morgan JR falls to you, grab him quickly. and also another WR I like is Hunter Renfrow.
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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby The Red Rooster » Tue Apr 16, 2019 4:58 pm

Stanley Morgan and the other Georgia WR...Mecole Hardman

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Re: 4th Round Fliers in Rookie Draft

Postby Prison_Mike » Wed Apr 17, 2019 9:34 am

Darrin Hall checks a lot of boxes and appears to be off everyone’s radar
Team 1:
12-team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: 1QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Herbert, Kyler, Baker, Jimmy G, Mariota, DTR
RB: Taylor, Saquon, Javonte, Conner, C.Evans, TDP
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Olave, Diggs, Diontae, Hollywood, MT, Shaheed
TE: Engram, Woods, Kraft
'24 picks: 1.08, 3.05

Team 2:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Mahomes, Allen, Russ
RB: Breece, JT, Swift, Javonte, Mostert, Zamir
WR: Chase, Aiyuk, Nico, Kupp, Hollywood, Kirk, MT
TE: Pitts, Njoku, Woods
'24 picks: 4.01

Team 3:
12-Team | PPR | SuperFlex | 0.5-TEP
Start: QB/2RB/2WR/1TE/3FLX/1SF
QB: Hurts, Dak, Stafford, Z.Wilson, DTR
RB: Saquon, Swift, Achane, Kamara, Ford
WR: Jefferson, AJB, ARSB, Nico, Diontae, OBJ
TE: Goedert, Njoku, Fant, Woods
'24 picks: 4.08, 4.12, 5.12


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