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CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby grandmabetty » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:44 am

Rivera came out today and said they want to reduce CMC's workload and that they are looking to add an RB in the draft. I guess this isn't too surprising considering I think CMC was on the field for something like 91% of the teams plays and they have very little behind CMC at tailback. Still, as someone who recently acquired him i would rather hear otherwise. As with all preseason talk we will see when the whistle blows how it will actually play out

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby joeya2001 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:47 am

Do you think CMC can handle a full load? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby grandmabetty » Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:48 am

joeya2001 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 8:47 am Do you think CMC can handle a full load? :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
grow up Peter Pan LOL :dance:

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Bot101 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:02 am

I get that he just had the workload fantasy owners dream of. I had him in 2 redraft leagues and he almost single handedly won me titles. But hes 200 lbs. And he will break down quickly with a sustained bellcow role. He is best deployed like Kamara. There are so few true bellcow RBs. Not everyone should or could handle that role year in and year out.

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby moishetreats » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:44 am

Actually, Rivera did not say that he wanted to reduce CMC's workload. Instead, he said that he is comfortable with the number of touches that CMC got.

What Rivera DID say is that he wants to reduce the number of snaps that CMC plays. A subtle but meaningful difference.
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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby grandmabetty » Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:56 am

moishetreats wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:44 am
What Rivera DID say is that he wants to reduce the number of snaps that CMC plays. A subtle but meaningful difference.
is it? you cant score if you aren't on the field. Say they reduce his snaps by 15%. unless you expect their offense to increase the amount of plays they run in 2019 by 15% or dramatically increase the % of play calls geared toward getting the ball to CMC I think it would be impossible for his workload to stay the same. it may be possible for a player to score more FF points with a reduced snap count but I don't see how a player could maintain or increase their workload while also having their snap count reduced. So yes you are correct on what Rivera said but I don't agree that this makes for a meaningful difference.

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Mjvb5 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:04 am

grandmabetty wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:56 am
moishetreats wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:44 am
What Rivera DID say is that he wants to reduce the number of snaps that CMC plays. A subtle but meaningful difference.
is it? you cant score if you aren't on the field.
Yes it is, why do I care if my rb is blocking or not getting the designed touch. CMC had by far the highest snap count but not the highest touch #s if they lower his snaps but keep similar touches why should we care

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:08 am

He had 327 touches last year. Not really sustainable long-term, especially if you plan on keeping him around.

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:11 am

grandmabetty wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:56 am
moishetreats wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:44 am
What Rivera DID say is that he wants to reduce the number of snaps that CMC plays. A subtle but meaningful difference.
is it? you cant score if you aren't on the field. Say they reduce his snaps by 15%. unless you expect their offense to increase the amount of plays they run in 2019 by 15% or dramatically increase the % of play calls geared toward getting the ball to CMC I think it would be impossible for his workload to stay the same. it may be possible for a player to score more FF points with a reduced snap count but I don't see how a player could maintain or increase their workload while also having their snap count reduced. So yes you are correct on what Rivera said but I don't agree that this makes for a meaningful difference.
15% snaps wouldn't mean 15% less touches though. At least I would think they would want him to keep up similar touches, but take him out of plays he isn't being utilized.

It's all just coach speak and preseason talk anyway
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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Elroypedro » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:16 am

Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:08 am He had 327 touches last year. Not really sustainable long-term, especially if you plan on keeping him around.
Touches don’t correlate to wear. Carries do. Pass catching backs have been known to stick around into their mid 30s being productive, just like WRs, because instead of getting smashed by DL, LB, and SSs, they are getting tackled by LB, FS, CBs and running out of bounds.
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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby moishetreats » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:19 am

Jigga94 wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:11 am
grandmabetty wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:56 am
moishetreats wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:44 am
What Rivera DID say is that he wants to reduce the number of snaps that CMC plays. A subtle but meaningful difference.
is it? you cant score if you aren't on the field. Say they reduce his snaps by 15%. unless you expect their offense to increase the amount of plays they run in 2019 by 15% or dramatically increase the % of play calls geared toward getting the ball to CMC I think it would be impossible for his workload to stay the same. it may be possible for a player to score more FF points with a reduced snap count but I don't see how a player could maintain or increase their workload while also having their snap count reduced. So yes you are correct on what Rivera said but I don't agree that this makes for a meaningful difference.
15% snaps wouldn't mean 15% less touches though. At least I would think they would want him to keep up similar touches, but take him out of plays he isn't being utilized
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In Ron Rivera's words: “And understanding what Christian did last year, how many reps he played, that’s something we do have to be concerned with. Him touching the ball was no concern. It was just the extra plays. So we have to look at that and find a way to take that load from him.”

Obviously, his workload MIGHT decrease; it might not. The number of snaps that he plays MIGHT decrease; they might not. I'm just pointing out that Rivera clearly said that he believes that CMC's touches is not a concern.

There are plays when you are out there primarily to block, or as a decoy, or other such things. It's THOSE plays that Rivera said that he wants to limit more for CMC. Coach-speak is coach-speak; let's just discuss what the coach is actually saying.
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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby IBall2 » Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:55 am

grandmabetty wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:56 am
moishetreats wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 9:44 am
What Rivera DID say is that he wants to reduce the number of snaps that CMC plays. A subtle but meaningful difference.
is it? you cant score if you aren't on the field. Say they reduce his snaps by 15%. unless you expect their offense to increase the amount of plays they run in 2019 by 15% or dramatically increase the % of play calls geared toward getting the ball to CMC I think it would be impossible for his workload to stay the same. it may be possible for a player to score more FF points with a reduced snap count but I don't see how a player could maintain or increase their workload while also having their snap count reduced. So yes you are correct on what Rivera said but I don't agree that this makes for a meaningful difference.
You're looking at this all wrong. Those 15% snaps are empty calories being wasted on meaningless plays that aren't designed to go to him!!! Would you rather him run 40 routes a game and get 15 targets or run 20 routes and get the same 15 targets? Because Rivera said he would get the same amount of looks/touches but reduce snaps.

I see this as a big win for CMC. Gets him some rest between plays that he would normally be blocking or a decoy. That could help boost his YPC and be more efficient when he does get the ball.

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Jfever » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:03 am

Seems to me it will make it easier to Defend. If CMC is in - he's going to get the ball. Not that it is easy to stop him, but, it seems it'd make it easier to game plan against. Less decoy, less mis direction if you will. I'd fully expect his carries / touches to regress a little and for the big picture, this is probably a good thing.
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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby Cameron Giles » Fri Mar 01, 2019 11:43 am

Elroypedro wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:16 am
Cameron Giles wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2019 10:08 am He had 327 touches last year. Not really sustainable long-term, especially if you plan on keeping him around.
Touches don’t correlate to wear. Carries do. Pass catching backs have been known to stick around into their mid 30s being productive, just like WRs, because instead of getting smashed by DL, LB, and SSs, they are getting tackled by LB, FS, CBs and running out of bounds.
It really doesn't matter how it comes. If the ball is being put in your hands and you are getting tackled, it's gradually wearing down the body. Considering the Panthers have zero RB depth, it makes a lot of sense to get someone who can take some of the workload away from him to keep him fresh long-term.

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Re: CMC to have his workload reduced

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Mar 01, 2019 1:49 pm

You know why they're doing this?

Because I bought cmc for Mike Evans and D Williams. You can all thank me for cmc becoming the scat back people feared, and Chiefs will be rolling with Williams as their lead back for sure
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