Oh well played - I did not even consider that angle!
Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
I will say that this is always a tough issue and obviously speaks to the situation vs. talent debate that is always ongoing. Did the talent create the situation or did the situation create the talent? Chicken? Egg? Personally I like both Chicken Salad & Egg Salad sandwiches.
But the point is - we know, or at least believe, that not all Coaches are created equal (thanks Bill Belichick) and there is usually a fair amount of players, who due to their situation on one team, have a 180 as soon as they are on a new team & new situation. That is just human nature. We like to believe that all players & coaches are professionals but emotions & personalities have a fair amount of involvement and players DO take some plays off, and coaches DO have their personal favorites. Etcetera.
So I for one am always interested to see how people feel about controversial players - especially ones that are either really underperforming or overperforming. Can a Kamara or Thielen be themselves on a completely different team using a different offensive scheme? Can a Treadwell or a Perine be much much better if only they had been on different teams?
But the point is - we know, or at least believe, that not all Coaches are created equal (thanks Bill Belichick) and there is usually a fair amount of players, who due to their situation on one team, have a 180 as soon as they are on a new team & new situation. That is just human nature. We like to believe that all players & coaches are professionals but emotions & personalities have a fair amount of involvement and players DO take some plays off, and coaches DO have their personal favorites. Etcetera.
So I for one am always interested to see how people feel about controversial players - especially ones that are either really underperforming or overperforming. Can a Kamara or Thielen be themselves on a completely different team using a different offensive scheme? Can a Treadwell or a Perine be much much better if only they had been on different teams?
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Corey Davis - Looks talented but the volume isn’t there in that offense
David Johnson - Obviously handcuffed by a poor team last year
David Carr - I just think if you look at his MVP caliber season when he had both Crabtree and Cooper, the talent is there, he just needs help.
Any number of RBs - Opportunity is the biggest thing with backs.
David Johnson - Obviously handcuffed by a poor team last year
David Carr - I just think if you look at his MVP caliber season when he had both Crabtree and Cooper, the talent is there, he just needs help.
Any number of RBs - Opportunity is the biggest thing with backs.
Please give us a visit for awesome FF content:
extrapointff.com
extrapointff.com
-
- Role Player
- Posts: 488
- Joined: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:30 am
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
CJ Anderson (until he got some totes in L.A.), Rashaad Penny, Tyrell Williams. I think given more opportunities these guys will produce.
10 team half-ppr 1QB 2RB 2WR 1TE 2FLX 3IDP
QB: J. Burrow, J. Goff
RB: J. Mixon, K. Walker, T. Etienne, A. Ekeler, Z. Charbonet, K. Miller, T. Bigsby, J. Warren,
WR: J. Chase, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, D. Smith, J. Smith-Njigba, P. Nacua, J. Meyers, T. Palmer,
TE: T. Kelce, T. McBride, C. Okonkwo
QB: J. Burrow, J. Goff
RB: J. Mixon, K. Walker, T. Etienne, A. Ekeler, Z. Charbonet, K. Miller, T. Bigsby, J. Warren,
WR: J. Chase, D.J. Moore, D.K. Metcalf, D. Smith, J. Smith-Njigba, P. Nacua, J. Meyers, T. Palmer,
TE: T. Kelce, T. McBride, C. Okonkwo
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
I agree ... He's being held back from being the great power lifter that he should be instead of posing as an NFL RB
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
I think you mean he is being held back by NFL network.
Joking aside I can see Derek being held back by a number of factors: coaches, talent around him, and mentally he seems to hold himself back as well sometimes.
Ainslie-Rachlin Law, "Our decisions... are guided by the perceived values at the moment of the decision - not by the potential final value."
-
- All Pro
- Posts: 1613
- Joined: Mon Nov 23, 2015 7:50 pm
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Keelan Cole and Dede Westbrook
2017 Champ, 2018 Runner-up, 2019 Champ, 2020 Champ, 2021 Runner-up
12 Team PPR
Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
Picks 2024 2x1st, 3, 4
12 Team PPR
Stairway to Evans
QB: Hurts, Kirk, Bridgewater, Jimmy G
RB: CMC, Pollard, Foreman,
Sanders, Hill
WR: Kupp, Evans, Ridley, Dell, Josh Palmer, Hodgins, Osborn, Parker, MVS
TE: Kelce, Musgrave, Otton, Gray, Woods
DEF: Chicago Ravens
2024 2nd, 3rd, 4th
12 Team .5 PPR
Fields of Dreams
QB - Fields, Cousins, Wilson
RB - Taylor, Swift, Mixon, Pollard, Singelary, McLaughlin
WR - Olave, Tyreek, Tank Dell, Higgins, Gabriel Davis, E Moore, Mingo, Douglas
TE - Ferguson, Gray, Otton
DEF - 49ers, Pats
Picks 2024 2x1st, 3, 4
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Sterling Shepard
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Funny good catch!
Carr is simply not very good. He can't read a defense worth a darn and won't throw WR's open. In fact, he seems to choke under pressure so goes ultra safe to TE's and RB's.
He makes way too much money for his game. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if the Raiders pick a QB early this draft. I could actually see him being cut to save the 15 million.
The Clock is Running and there are no Timeouts
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Not going to happen this year - his (Derek Carr) entire 2019 salary was guaranteed as of Feb 9th. Not to mention the dead cap total. Next year maybe - but he'll have at least 1 more year to work with Gruden.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-rai ... arr-14445/
Not to mention the Raiders have 70m to work with ...
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-rai ... arr-14445/
Not to mention the Raiders have 70m to work with ...
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Good catch. Salaries usually are not guaranteed in February. That typically comes in prior to June 1 cut. Smart agent. It's not the dead cap so much as it is the salary guarantee. Still a 1st round selection on a QB is not out of the question IMO.ArrylT wrote: ↑Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:21 pm Not going to happen this year - his (Derek Carr) entire 2019 salary was guaranteed as of Feb 9th. Not to mention the dead cap total. Next year maybe - but he'll have at least 1 more year to work with Gruden.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/oakland-rai ... arr-14445/
Not to mention the Raiders have 70m to work with ...
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
The Clock is Running and there are no Timeouts
- Orenthal Shames
- Legend
- Posts: 6636
- Joined: Sun Mar 20, 2016 9:13 pm
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Duke Johnson
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Downs, Mims, Douglas, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.08, 1.14, 2nd x2
- GridironGuerilla
- Ring of Fame
- Posts: 3150
- Joined: Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:43 pm
- Location: Nor-Cal
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
All the players I roster that are disappointing me.
"If on 4th down, the quarterback doesn't complete his pass, they will turn over the ball."
-Booger McFarlland
-Booger McFarlland
Re: Players That Are "Being Held Back?"
Trey Burton, theyre were times he was screaming open and Mitch wouldn't throw it or missed him A LOT
Who is online
Users browsing this forum: HazardRein, Shoreline Steamers, tstafford and 43 guests