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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby MR ROURKE » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:20 pm

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Rag3aholik wrote:I just traded Kaepernick for Julio Jones, so I sure hope Flacco continues to produce. I just don't think he's ever really gonna produce enough raw numbers to be a QB1.
Unless that's a 2 QB league I'd imagine that owner looks like Cameron after Ferris told him how many miles are on the Ferrari.
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby KMA » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:35 pm

Lets not get ahead of ourselves. Flacco has still has enough time to be...well...Flacco!
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TheOracle » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:39 pm

In a seriousness, if Jacoby Jones could catch and run more than 2 routes, would he be a WR1? High end WR2?
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)

12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,

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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TommyL31 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:54 pm

TheOracle wrote:In a seriousness, if Jacoby Jones could catch and run more than 2 routes, would he be a WR1? High end WR2?
Eh, I still don't think so. His big plays come on broken coverage and seem to be because the defense doesn't respect his ability. If he was consistently lined up as a teams WR2 I highly doubt most of these holes are there. Credit to him for having the speed to create them and the shiftiness to do what he did tonight but I don't think he has the talent to be an every week starter.
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TheOracle » Sun Feb 03, 2013 7:57 pm

No I know he doesn't, that was kind of a joke. Notice the "if he had" followed by two of the most important skills for a WR. Crazy athlete though.
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)

12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,

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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TommyL31 » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:02 pm

Ah gotcha. Sorry for the misunderstanding. I've seen crazier things on these boards though.
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby IronSkull » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:49 pm

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QB - Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Christian Ponder
RB - Steven Jackson, M. Lynch, MJD, D.Will, Jonathan Stewart, R.Mendenhal
WR - Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Jordy Nelson, S. Rice, M. Wallace, Santonio Holmes, Joe Morgan, D.Avery
TE - K.Rudolph, Heath Miller, Brandon Myers
D - Dolphins
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TheOracle » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:51 pm

IronSkull wrote:MVP
I'm pretty sure the price just went up.
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)

12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,

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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby IronSkull » Sun Feb 03, 2013 8:55 pm

He could still be had pretty cheap, people just dont value Flacco. Also, someone might want to pm 49ersfaithful80 and make sure he didnt kill himself after the game haha
12 team, non-ppr, standard scoring
QB - Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Matt Stafford, Christian Ponder
RB - Steven Jackson, M. Lynch, MJD, D.Will, Jonathan Stewart, R.Mendenhal
WR - Brandon Marshall, Wes Welker, Jordy Nelson, S. Rice, M. Wallace, Santonio Holmes, Joe Morgan, D.Avery
TE - K.Rudolph, Heath Miller, Brandon Myers
D - Dolphins
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TheOracle » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:02 pm

IronSkull wrote:He could still be had pretty cheap, people just dont value Flacco. Also, someone might want to pm 49ersfaithful80 and make sure he didnt kill himself after the game haha
I didn't watch, did a 49er besides Crabtree or Kaepernick win the MVP?
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)

12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,

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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby eNdblu » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:21 pm

TheOracle wrote:
IronSkull wrote:MVP
I'm pretty sure the price just went up.
His FF value or his real life value?

IMO, Flacco is still the same QB he was coming into the playoffs - a mid tier QB2. If you can sell him for more, capitalize on it ASAP before everyone else wises up

He will hold himself up for ransom this off season though, especially when you consider the number of teams looking for a QB

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WR - Godwin(5), Metcalf(1), Pittman(2), Mingo(5), Boutte(5), Metchie(4), Renfrow(1), Mims(3)
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby EdgeFx » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:34 pm

I think Flacco didn't acquire anymore value then you already had. he threw for under 60% in the playoffs, and same for the regular season. I can't believe so many teams let him beat them with the deep ball.

Still he had a great postseason... I'm not a hater, just a realist, the guy is not elite...

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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby TheOracle » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:52 pm

Arguing over who's elite or who is an "ace" in baseball is a waste of time because the term doesn't mean anything other than "an excuse for Skip Bayless to force more air out of his face-hole."
12 team//24 Man Roster//1QB,2RB,4WR,1TE,1RB/WR/TE/1K/1DST//0.5 point PPR//$350 Salary Cap (Salary per year/Years)
QB= Stafford (19/3), Luck (10/1), Locker (1/1),
RB= Forte (39/3), Murray (11/3), Mathews (34/3), Martin (10/1), Tate (11/3), Hunter (6/1), F. Jones (3/1)
WR= Green (21/3), Harvin (27/3), Maclin (33/3), Bowe (23/1) Thomas (11/3), Quick (5/1), Hill (10/1)
TE= Hernandez (19/1), Rudolph (8/1)

12 Team, non-PPR, All TDs 6, QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, TE, RB/WR/TE, DEF, K, 20 man rosters, cut to 14 for Rookie/FA Draft
QB: RG3, Newton, Wilson
RB: Richardson, Martin, Spiller, Charles, L. Miller, L. James,
WR: AJ Green, Julio Jones, Cruz, Marshall, Fitzgerald, Alexander, Hankerson,
TE: Gronk,

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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby EdgeFx » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:56 pm

Flacco threw for under 60% completion in the regular season and the postseason, the guy is not elite. he may be worth wins in terms of elite, but not fantasy points.

And I do not want to hear about his fantasy points during the postseason. If you post them I don't mind, but they don't change my mind about his value.
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Re: Joe Flacco

Postby Pullo Vision » Sun Feb 03, 2013 9:57 pm

NickDblU wrote:
TheOracle wrote:
IronSkull wrote:MVP
I'm pretty sure the price just went up.
His FF value or his real life value?

IMO, Flacco is still the same QB he was coming into the playoffs - a mid tier QB2. If you can sell him for more, capitalize on it ASAP before everyone else wises up

He will hold himself up for ransom this off season though, especially when you consider the number of teams looking for a QB

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I agree completely- Flacco's value didn't go up much more for me. In one of the two leagues I have him, though, I was stirring up a bidding war for him late last season and I expect it to intensify by several orders of magnitude after this postseason.
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