Kareem Hunt's True Value & Talent

[turcorox911]

Is Kareem Hunt That Good Or Did He Play In A Good System?



Other Andy Reid RBs who had decent-phenomenal games and/or years
1. Duce Staley
2. Westbrook
3. Shady
4. Jamaal Charles
5. Charcandrick West
6. Spencer Ware
7. Damien Williams
8. Bryce Brown

And I'm sure I'm missing some other fill-in type guys with the Eagles. I like Hunt's game on the field, but I also feel like he benefited a lot from Reid and his system.



What do you all think?

[Orenthal Shames]

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[Cameron Giles]

Every RB is dependent on a good offensive line, play calling and other potential threats on the field to play well. That said, Hunt has shown skill that separates him from the typical replacement back.

[thebeast]

Every RB is dependent on a good offensive line, play calling and other potential threats on the field to play well. That said, Hunt has shown skill that separates him from the typical replacement back.

Not Barkley.

[hockeyBjj]

Every RB is dependent on a good offensive line, play calling and other potential threats on the field to play well. That said, Hunt has shown skill that separates him from the typical replacement back.

Not Barkley.

*dependent on 20 dump offs a game

[Cameron Giles]

Every RB is dependent on a good offensive line, play calling and other potential threats on the field to play well. That said, Hunt has shown skill that separates him from the typical replacement back.

Not Barkley.

On his big runs he is.

[Jfever]

Well the real truth is that - Yes, K.Hunt has a nice rb skill set and size. He has good long speed, very good vision, good hands, and some natural running skills that allow him to be elusive, strong, quick, and electric with the ball in his hands. He is, imo, more talented than average. Put this combination on the same offense as a quick rising P.Mahomes, a WR in Hill that requires Defenses know where he is, Watkins - who is a nice wr2, and one of the top 2 TE's currently in the league - and you have a recipe for a very potent offense. Thing is, this offense will work and does work if you take Hunt out of the equation.

So, I'm inclined to say that YES - K.Hunt is quite talented. But - Rb value, talent, and thus production aren't the same. Simply too many variables that are involved.

People like to say that Barkley is hands down the most "talented". I would never say that he isn't talented, but, I'm inclined to think that there is a tier type thing going on where guys like Barkley, Kamara, Gurley, etc are in that top tier.

More often than not - I think that it is more to do with scheme, offensive line, durability, Qb, Game flow other weapons. That however is the long answer, and, it's too complicated to predict, and explain. It's easier for most to just think and repeat - "how elite" Zeke or Bell is... when in reality, their "elite-ness" actually has much less to do with what we are seeing than most think.

[James McGhee]

I disagree and think Hunt's talent is closer to average. He doesn't have that great of speed or power. I admit he does read the game pretty well and has good hands though. He wasn't highly thought of as a prospect and he really only ascended once Ware got hurt. My main piece of evidence though is to look at what Williams is doing in his stead. I think Kareem is talented, but only in that EVERY NFL player is talented to a degree. I don't think Hunt belongs in the upper tier with Gurley, Barkley and Kamara though.

[Jfever]

I don't disagree with your take at all James. But, just so we are clear, then by your logic, L.Bell is also then, not an elite talent, but - he is a nice balanced jack of all trades rb with nice receiving chops but still - a product of a system. Maybe you do feel that way, I know I do. J.Conner production vs L.Bell production in that Steelers system.

[KingsKing]

I think while Hunt might not be confused for being an elite athlete the rb position requires alot more than elite athleticism to be productive. He does have some of the best vision,balance,forward lean, tackle breaking and agility at the position, add in adequate speed and great hands and it makes him a top 5 Rb imo. For what its worth the Cheifs average 10 ppg less after Hunt was replaced.

[kadun2]

I think while Hunt might not be confused for being an elite athlete the rb position requires alot more than elite athleticism to be productive. He does have some of the best vision,balance,forward lean, tackle breaking and agility at the position, add in adequate speed and great hands and it makes him a top 5 Rb imo. For what its worth the Cheifs average 10 ppg less after Hunt was replaced.

Nicely stated KingsKing
I’ll add TOUGH AS NAILS and DOESN’T FUMBLE

[Space Cowboy]

He's really good. He's an instant RB2 pretty much anywhere he signs. Explosive, picks up chunks and can catch very well out of the backfield.

[Slevin Kelevra]

he really only ascended once Ware got hurt.

That would be the 3rd preseason game of his rookie year.

[Mike from Canada]

he really only ascended once Ware got hurt.

That would be the 3rd preseason game of his rookie year.

Hey some players are late bloomers.

[James McGhee]

I don't disagree with your take at all James. But, just so we are clear, then by your logic, L.Bell is also then, not an elite talent, but - he is a nice balanced jack of all trades rb with nice receiving chops but still - a product of a system. Maybe you do feel that way, I know I do. J.Conner production vs L.Bell production in that Steelers system.

I think a lot of "elite" RBs are being somewhat "exposed" by their back-ups...that they're more a product of their system than their individual talent. Bell and Conner. Gurley and CJ Anderson! Hunt and Williams. I think Bell's market is going to be dried up compared to what he thinks it will be.