The last successful WR with anywhere close to Riley Ridley's level of collegiate production was Laveraneus Coles in 1999...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:08 pm Riley Ridley looks good, but he's going to be 23 in July, and this was his first real season of any sort of production, which concerns me.
My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
It was just something I noticed on a couple of his reels, that he would pin it to his body seemingly an inordinate amount. But you're absolutely right, since digging further, I've seen a lot of good contested "hands" catches.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:59 pm Interested to see the knock on Harmon being a "body catcher". I see plenty of instances of him using his hands. A lot of time I see him making body catches on contested catches, or when the ball is thrown in a spot where it's really all he can do, and sometimes he does not use good technique, but he definitely can catch with his hands. I've seen him do it enough that I don't think it's a long term concern.
I would like to formally walk back my Harmon comments after seeing this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhx37n5FY9K/
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
I'm glad to see that he's working on this. It should help his NFL career. And, for what it's worth, OBJ had a habit of body catching in college as well.mild wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:22 pmIt was just something I noticed on a couple of his reels, that he would pin it to his body seemingly an inordinate amount. But you're absolutely right, since digging further, I've seen a lot of good contested "hands" catches.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:59 pm Interested to see the knock on Harmon being a "body catcher". I see plenty of instances of him using his hands. A lot of time I see him making body catches on contested catches, or when the ball is thrown in a spot where it's really all he can do, and sometimes he does not use good technique, but he definitely can catch with his hands. I've seen him do it enough that I don't think it's a long term concern.
I would like to formally walk back my Harmon comments after seeing this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhx37n5FY9K/
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
With mitts like his, that'd be a problem.Hottoddies wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:29 pmI'm glad to see that he's working on this. It should help his NFL career. And, for what it's worth, OBJ had a habit of body catching in college as well.mild wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:22 pmIt was just something I noticed on a couple of his reels, that he would pin it to his body seemingly an inordinate amount. But you're absolutely right, since digging further, I've seen a lot of good contested "hands" catches.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:59 pm Interested to see the knock on Harmon being a "body catcher". I see plenty of instances of him using his hands. A lot of time I see him making body catches on contested catches, or when the ball is thrown in a spot where it's really all he can do, and sometimes he does not use good technique, but he definitely can catch with his hands. I've seen him do it enough that I don't think it's a long term concern.
I would like to formally walk back my Harmon comments after seeing this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhx37n5FY9K/
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Wow, nice. I swear he looks like Julio (face).mild wrote: ↑Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:22 pmIt was just something I noticed on a couple of his reels, that he would pin it to his body seemingly an inordinate amount. But you're absolutely right, since digging further, I've seen a lot of good contested "hands" catches.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:59 pm Interested to see the knock on Harmon being a "body catcher". I see plenty of instances of him using his hands. A lot of time I see him making body catches on contested catches, or when the ball is thrown in a spot where it's really all he can do, and sometimes he does not use good technique, but he definitely can catch with his hands. I've seen him do it enough that I don't think it's a long term concern.
I would like to formally walk back my Harmon comments after seeing this:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bhx37n5FY9K/
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
It funny to see all the nit picking on these WR with the combine still a month way.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
My pre-combine WR rankings based on film study:
1. N'keal Harry
2. DK Metcalf
3. Marquise Brown
4. A.J. Brown
5. Hakeem Butler
6. J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
7. Deebo Samuel
8. Kelvin Harmon
9. Antoine Wesley
10. Emanuel Hall
I try to watch as much film as I can prior to the combine to eliminate any bias, but this year the combine and the draft will play huge part in my evaluation as I see a lot of these guys on a similar level. This list will most likely change a few times before I draft.
1. N'keal Harry
2. DK Metcalf
3. Marquise Brown
4. A.J. Brown
5. Hakeem Butler
6. J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
7. Deebo Samuel
8. Kelvin Harmon
9. Antoine Wesley
10. Emanuel Hall
I try to watch as much film as I can prior to the combine to eliminate any bias, but this year the combine and the draft will play huge part in my evaluation as I see a lot of these guys on a similar level. This list will most likely change a few times before I draft.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
What we really need to do is figure out who the MeuRaH of WRs is.
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
I recently started my dive into game tapes of the WR's. There are 2 guys that I have been pretty impressed with but rarely see them mentioned. I was hoping to get some opinions on Demarkus Lodge and Jakobi Meyers.
your thoughts??
your thoughts??
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Thats a pretty good dive - I have to admit I had not even heard their names before you mentioned them. Not that I am a rookie expert by any means - but I am now curious to know more. I appreciated it when that poster (wish I could remember who) mentioned Lindsay well before the Combine, so who knows maybe one of these 2 could be unheralded but surprise us.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
I like to compare popular mock draft sites to see how people's opinions vary on fantasy football players. I tend to keep a spreadsheet of all of them just to make a consensus between the 'big shots' like Daniel Jeremiah, Todd McShay, Kirk Herbstreit, walterfootball, etc.
Anyways, I can't wrap my head around the fact that Walterfootball doesn't have Hakeem Butler projected to go in the first FIVE rounds of the NFL draft.
Anyways, I can't wrap my head around the fact that Walterfootball doesn't have Hakeem Butler projected to go in the first FIVE rounds of the NFL draft.
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
My top 10 thus far after watching most of the tape I want to (pre - combine)
1. Nkeal Harry
2. Hakeem Butler
3. Kelvin Harmon
4. Marquise Brown
5. AJ. Brown
6. Dk Metcalf
7. J.J Arcega- Whiteside
8. Deebo Samuel
9. Keesean Johnson
10. Antoine Wesley
I could go with either Butler or Harmon at 2 or 3 as they are very close imo.
1. Nkeal Harry
2. Hakeem Butler
3. Kelvin Harmon
4. Marquise Brown
5. AJ. Brown
6. Dk Metcalf
7. J.J Arcega- Whiteside
8. Deebo Samuel
9. Keesean Johnson
10. Antoine Wesley
I could go with either Butler or Harmon at 2 or 3 as they are very close imo.
Team 1 - Super Kamario Bros (12 Team - PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -1, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB -Wentz, Newton, Ryan, Haskins (R)
RB -Zeke, Kamara, Drake, Ballage; Thompson, Ajayi
WR - D Hopkins, Julio, A. Miller, Coutee, AJ Brown (R) , Marvin Jones, Mclaurin (R),
Te -Delanie, Ebron, Oliver (R)
2020:3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5
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Kerryon Luggage (12 Team - 2TE PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -2, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB - Jimmy G, Josh Allen, Mariota
RB - Kerryon, Jamaal Will, Drake, Ballage, Miles Sanders (R), Justice Hill (R), Myles Gaskins (R)
Wr - Micheal Thomas, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Crowder, Coutee, Aj Brown (R), Marquise Brown (R), Keesean Johnson (R), Kelvin Harmon (R)
Te- Engram, Oj Howard, Josh Oliver (R)
2020: 3,3,3, 5
QB -Wentz, Newton, Ryan, Haskins (R)
RB -Zeke, Kamara, Drake, Ballage; Thompson, Ajayi
WR - D Hopkins, Julio, A. Miller, Coutee, AJ Brown (R) , Marvin Jones, Mclaurin (R),
Te -Delanie, Ebron, Oliver (R)
2020:3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5
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Kerryon Luggage (12 Team - 2TE PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -2, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB - Jimmy G, Josh Allen, Mariota
RB - Kerryon, Jamaal Will, Drake, Ballage, Miles Sanders (R), Justice Hill (R), Myles Gaskins (R)
Wr - Micheal Thomas, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Crowder, Coutee, Aj Brown (R), Marquise Brown (R), Keesean Johnson (R), Kelvin Harmon (R)
Te- Engram, Oj Howard, Josh Oliver (R)
2020: 3,3,3, 5
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Walter Football has gotten painfully unreliable
TEAM A - 12T (22 R/U, 20 R/U, 19 R/U, 18 Champ, 17 R/U)
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
HERBERT, Baker
BIJAN/KAMARA/MIXON, A Jones
HILL/AJB/DK/G WILSON/D Adams, Pittman, Z Flowers, Evans
KITTLE
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TEAM B - 16T, SF, TEP (22 R/U)
HURTS/MINSHEW, Cousins, D Jones
JT/JACOBS, Mostert, Gus E
HILL/MCLAURIN/DEEBO
KELCE/KITTLE, LaPorta
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TEAM C - 14T, SF (Joined in 22)
GENO
HENRY/A JONES, Gus E
HILL/DIGGS/K ALLEN
WALLER
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TEAM D - 14T, 1QB (Joined in 22)
MAHOMES, Goff
BIJAN/BREECE/POLLARD
CHASE/DIGGS/G WILSON/AIYUK, DJM, Pittman
KITTLE, Goedert
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TEAM E - 14T, SF, 2TE (Started in 22)
MAHOMES/T-LAW, Carr
BIJAN/CMC/SAQUON/POLLARD, Hall
HILL/AIYUK/EVANS/GODWIN, Hollywood, Thielen
MCBRIDE/ENGRAM, Goedert, Chig
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TEAM F - 16T (Joined in 23)
R WILSON, Minshew
SAQUON/KAMARA/MIXON, Monty
DIGGS/GODWIN/AIYUK/EVANS, Thielen, A Cooper
KELCE, Schultz
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TEAM G - 12T, SF & TEP (Joined in 23)
HERBERT/TUA, Kyler
BIJAN/MIXON, Spears, J Warren
JJ/G WILSON/WADDLE/OLAVE, Godwin, J Reed
LAPORTA
Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Agreed 100% on this. Anymore I just laugh at their content and click next.
Team 1 - Super Kamario Bros (12 Team - PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -1, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB -Wentz, Newton, Ryan, Haskins (R)
RB -Zeke, Kamara, Drake, Ballage; Thompson, Ajayi
WR - D Hopkins, Julio, A. Miller, Coutee, AJ Brown (R) , Marvin Jones, Mclaurin (R),
Te -Delanie, Ebron, Oliver (R)
2020:3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5
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Kerryon Luggage (12 Team - 2TE PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -2, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB - Jimmy G, Josh Allen, Mariota
RB - Kerryon, Jamaal Will, Drake, Ballage, Miles Sanders (R), Justice Hill (R), Myles Gaskins (R)
Wr - Micheal Thomas, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Crowder, Coutee, Aj Brown (R), Marquise Brown (R), Keesean Johnson (R), Kelvin Harmon (R)
Te- Engram, Oj Howard, Josh Oliver (R)
2020: 3,3,3, 5
QB -Wentz, Newton, Ryan, Haskins (R)
RB -Zeke, Kamara, Drake, Ballage; Thompson, Ajayi
WR - D Hopkins, Julio, A. Miller, Coutee, AJ Brown (R) , Marvin Jones, Mclaurin (R),
Te -Delanie, Ebron, Oliver (R)
2020:3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5
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Kerryon Luggage (12 Team - 2TE PPR) ( QB -1 , RB -2 , WR - 2, Te -2, FLX - 1, SuperFLX - 1, DP - 2, K- 1)
QB - Jimmy G, Josh Allen, Mariota
RB - Kerryon, Jamaal Will, Drake, Ballage, Miles Sanders (R), Justice Hill (R), Myles Gaskins (R)
Wr - Micheal Thomas, Zay Jones, Curtis Samuel, Crowder, Coutee, Aj Brown (R), Marquise Brown (R), Keesean Johnson (R), Kelvin Harmon (R)
Te- Engram, Oj Howard, Josh Oliver (R)
2020: 3,3,3, 5
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)
Haven't done ranks, but Emanuel Hall and Paris Campbell are shaping up to be in my top 10.
16 team league
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 Flex (RB/WR/TE)
26 upman rosters - full point ppr
2015, 17, 18, 19, 20 Champs
QB: Watson, Flacco Stidham
RB: Bijan, Gibbs, McLaughlin
WR: Olave, Addison, Flowers, Rice, Sutton, Downs, Mims, Tillman
TE: Kittle, Goedert, Chig, Woods
24 Picks: 1.06
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