My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby alewilliam789 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:53 am

MEuRaH wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:54 am I don't know anything about WRs. I remember hearing a metric called "breakout age" that correlates to a WRs success. I just found it and here are the WRs who fit this metric:

N'Keal Harry
Kelvin Harmon
A.J. Brown
J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
Andy Isabella and DK Metcalf may qualify as well if you project his stats from last year/do the dominator rating for all the games he played in in 2018.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Ice » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:28 am

MEuRaH wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:54 am I don't know anything about WRs. I remember hearing a metric called "breakout age" that correlates to a WRs success. I just found it and here are the WRs who fit this metric:

N'Keal Harry
Kelvin Harmon
A.J. Brown
J.J. Arcega-Whiteside
Of those 4. I have moved Brown and Harmon over Harry.

A bit concerned about Harmon's ability to separate but really can catch in traffic and just looks mean playing the game. I imagine he will be #1 WR on a few boards and pretty hard to argue against other than speed. He is a position WR but in the right system will catch a ton of balls. I am very interested in his landing spot.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Bot101 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:34 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:17 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:30 pm I have very little faith in Campbell becoming a consistent fantasy weapon. He’s an athletic freak who has SOME moves but he is incredibly raw.
..as a fifth year senior who did "jack sh@t" until then. No thanks in the early/mid first. I learned about that with Mr. White (basically the same thing after JUCO transfer).

Honestly, I think the safest pick pre and post combine is AJ Brown, while the highest upside is DK, followed by N'Keal. People ragging on DK for ability to run routes, but I think N'Keal has the same questions, if not more. BUT he's born in the T-DOT, so go N'Keal. :lol:
Wait Parris Campbell a 5th year senior? Isnt he 20???
And I agree with the AJ Brown take. A contender near the end of the 1st will get this guy and be very happy.

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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby ArrylT » Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:45 pm

Bot101 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:34 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:17 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:30 pm I have very little faith in Campbell becoming a consistent fantasy weapon. He’s an athletic freak who has SOME moves but he is incredibly raw.
..as a fifth year senior who did "jack sh@t" until then. No thanks in the early/mid first. I learned about that with Mr. White (basically the same thing after JUCO transfer).

Honestly, I think the safest pick pre and post combine is AJ Brown, while the highest upside is DK, followed by N'Keal. People ragging on DK for ability to run routes, but I think N'Keal has the same questions, if not more. BUT he's born in the T-DOT, so go N'Keal. :lol:
Wait Parris Campbell a 5th year senior? Isnt he 20???
And I agree with the AJ Brown take. A contender near the end of the 1st will get this guy and be very happy.
He is one of those guys whose age I am not sure of. I've seen it listed as 21 or 22 and born in 1996 or 1997.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 05, 2019 4:02 pm

Bot101 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 12:34 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 3:17 am
lukkynumber13 wrote: Mon Mar 04, 2019 10:30 pm I have very little faith in Campbell becoming a consistent fantasy weapon. He’s an athletic freak who has SOME moves but he is incredibly raw.
..as a fifth year senior who did "jack sh@t" until then. No thanks in the early/mid first. I learned about that with Mr. White (basically the same thing after JUCO transfer).

Honestly, I think the safest pick pre and post combine is AJ Brown, while the highest upside is DK, followed by N'Keal. People ragging on DK for ability to run routes, but I think N'Keal has the same questions, if not more. BUT he's born in the T-DOT, so go N'Keal. :lol:
Wait Parris Campbell a 5th year senior? Isnt he 20???
And I agree with the AJ Brown take. A contender near the end of the 1st will get this guy and be very happy.
https://ohiostatebuckeyes.com/roster/pa ... C4FAy4Pq9g

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parris_Campbell

According to this he is.

Note. I've seen him born in July, and 2 different dates in March (on this page) LOL
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Bot101 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:41 pm

Wow I'm so confused now. Hes listed as being 20.6 on player profiler. If hes 22 thats a big knock down my board.

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Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:20 pm

Bot101 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:41 pm Wow I'm so confused now. Hes listed as being 20.6 on player profiler. If hes 22 thats a big knock down my board.
IF he is 20.6, that would be highly unlikely, if he's a 5th year senior. Most Juniors aren't even that young.
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Postby jaykay22 » Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:07 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:20 pm
Bot101 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:41 pm Wow I'm so confused now. Hes listed as being 20.6 on player profiler. If hes 22 thats a big knock down my board.
IF he is 20.6, that would be highly unlikely, if he's a 5th year senior. Most Juniors aren't even that young.
Believe it or not, but Parris Campbell is both a 5th year senior, and 20.6! He graduated high school at 16, and enrolled at OSU just before his 17th birthday, I believe.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Mr. Wizard » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 pm

Penny for your thoughts on Hakeem Butler, fellas? I’m a little late to the scouting game this year but I like what I’ve seen, and he’s projected all over the place.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby mild » Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:35 am

Blackstar110 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 pm Penny for your thoughts on Hakeem Butler, fellas? I’m a little late to the scouting game this year but I like what I’ve seen, and he’s projected all over the place.
Check earlier in the thread around page 2-4, but the short version is that post-combine, some guys at DLF already have him ranked as their 1.01.

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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:34 am

jaykay22 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 8:07 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:20 pm
Bot101 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:41 pm Wow I'm so confused now. Hes listed as being 20.6 on player profiler. If hes 22 thats a big knock down my board.
IF he is 20.6, that would be highly unlikely, if he's a 5th year senior. Most Juniors aren't even that young.
Believe it or not, but Parris Campbell is both a 5th year senior, and 20.6! He graduated high school at 16, and enrolled at OSU just before his 17th birthday, I believe.
Wow! So does that mean his BA on player profiler is being affected?

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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Jigga94 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:38 am

mild wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:35 am
Blackstar110 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 pm Penny for your thoughts on Hakeem Butler, fellas? I’m a little late to the scouting game this year but I like what I’ve seen, and he’s projected all over the place.
Check earlier in the thread around page 2-4, but the short version is that post-combine, some guys at DLF already have him ranked as their 1.01.
Yes I would also suggest going back as there has been some good discussion. I love his film, the hands look great. He's 6'5 and I was wondering if he could run between a 4.5-4.6 but he ran just sub 4.5 which impressed me for his size. His wingspan and hand size are among the biggest. He's in the conversation of WR1 for me.

He's in the top 4 for me (no order) Harry, Metcalf, Butler and AJ Brown. I'm set on making tiers of players right now that way once the draft happens, I can move them within that tier.

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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby IBall2 » Wed Mar 06, 2019 5:57 am

Jigga94 wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 4:38 am
mild wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 1:35 am
Blackstar110 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 pm Penny for your thoughts on Hakeem Butler, fellas? I’m a little late to the scouting game this year but I like what I’ve seen, and he’s projected all over the place.
Check earlier in the thread around page 2-4, but the short version is that post-combine, some guys at DLF already have him ranked as their 1.01.
Yes I would also suggest going back as there has been some good discussion. I love his film, the hands look great. He's 6'5 and I was wondering if he could run between a 4.5-4.6 but he ran just sub 4.5 which impressed me for his size. His wingspan and hand size are among the biggest. He's in the conversation of WR1 for me.

He's in the top 4 for me (no order) Harry, Metcalf, Butler and AJ Brown. I'm set on making tiers of players right now that way once the draft happens, I can move them within that tier.
My biggest knock on Butler is he basically did nothing in college his first 2 seasons. Couldn't beat out Allen Lazard his Junior season, and Lazard went undrafted last year. If Lazard was a 2nd-3rd round NFL draft pick I would have given Butler the benefit of the doubt that he was playing behind a superior WR but that's a big red flag for me.

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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Ice » Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:59 am

Blackstar110 wrote: Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:22 pm Penny for your thoughts on Hakeem Butler, fellas? I’m a little late to the scouting game this year but I like what I’ve seen, and he’s projected all over the place.
I really want to like this player as he has great length and big hands. He can use his size to come down with the ball.

That said, I just don't see any explosion as a WR in this player. He plays way slower than I like to see and as big as his hands are he doesn't really catch that well. Lot of body catches and drops easy throws. He is one of the slowest I have seen out of breaks.

Might be top 10 WR in this class. A team that really needs some size might go after him and he could mature into a pretty good player but I do not have a 1st round fantasy grade on him. Think he will go in round 4-5 of the NFL draft.

I see a high bust potential so too risky for me to pick in the first round
. Worth a dart throw in the early 2nd but he is a project. Looks like a low target player if he makes it. Not sure his skill set set really translates that well in the NFL as the competition is way different. He is a pretty tough evaluation once you dig deeper into his game.

I can't help but think he is way closer to Jonathan Baldwin than Mike Evans.
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Re: My top-10 WRs in the 2019 class (pre-combine)

Postby Servo » Wed Mar 06, 2019 9:03 am

Ice wrote: Wed Mar 06, 2019 6:59 am Might be top 10 WR in this class. A team that really needs some size might go after him and he could mature into a pretty good player but I do not have a 1st round fantasy grade on him. Think he will go in round 4-5 of the NFL draft.
Top 10? After his combine, he'll probably be in the Top 5 of WR drafted in this class.


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