Off Season Targets [for consolidation]

[Patsfan86]

But Williams still isn't getting consistent targets

A "slowed down", older Thielen had 8 less yards than Diggs for the 2nd half of the season. Haven't we been saying Diggs is more talented for a couple of years now?

People were saying the same thing last year. There's a good chance he's not fine.

Maybe, but he definitely hasn't look like his old self.

You're definitely right, but to play devil's advocate, there's a reason these are off season targets. You're hoping to get them for cheap because of the obvious question marks.

Oh, I agree. I was questioning the rational.

Yes but this is why they are offseason targets in my opinion. Of course there are question marks I just pointed out why I like them for next season since this is about next season. The WIlliams argument is especially about next season.

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Aj Green One More season at least

Maybe, but he definitely hasn't look like his old self.

46-694-6 essentially in only 8 games... He was a top 10 WR before missing the second half of the season. Guaranteed his price tag will be cheap relative to his production and it will be for multiple future seasons, not just one.

[Patsfan86]

Aj Green One More season at least

Maybe, but he definitely hasn't look like his old self.

46-694-6 essentially in only 8 games... He was a top 10 WR before missing the second half of the season. Guaranteed his price tag will be cheap relative to his production and it will be for multiple future seasons, not just one.

Ya to me he is perfect for this list. He is "old" so you get a discount there, had an injury, another discount, and he has produced at very high levels. Perfect guy to try and target for a low first if you are a contender.

[cebarnette]

Fournette has his value in a free fall, and if you believe in the talent. He could be someone you go after.

[Elroypedro]

Thanks for understanding the purpose of the thread. You’re selling me on AJG as a consolidation target for sure right now

[Pullo Vision]

Thanks for understanding the purpose of the thread. You’re selling me on AJG as a consolidation target for sure right now

Using "consolidation" in the thread title would've helped get the point across more clearly and made it stand out from the other offseason buy/sell threads.

[Elroypedro]

Thanks for understanding the purpose of the thread. You’re selling me on AJG as a consolidation target for sure right now

Using "consolidation" in the thread title would've helped get the point across more clearly and made it stand out from the other offseason buy/sell threads.

Sure but those that read my post beyond just the title understood and responded appropriately with helpful posts like conscientious adults. A few others just came to be juvenile trolls, and luckily they were drowned out by the better users here. Regardless, I updated the title of the thread, because it is a good idea on your part.

[Elroypedro]

List so far of consolidation targets.

QB

RB
Cook
D Freeman
Fournette
K Johnson
Penny
R Freeman

WR
OBJ
AJG
Evans
Diggs
M Williams
Lockett

TE
Engram

Personally interested in QB targets anyone has eyes on, because of my own situatuion with an aging QB1 in Brees and an underperforming QB2 in Cousins going forward.

[Pullo Vision]

If your focus is non-elite non-fliers, this could be useful- viewtopic.php?f=5&t=176443

QB options-
R Wilson- the drumbeat of low pass volume could push his value down
M Ryan- another OC, age isn't on his side
Wentz- two straight years ending on IR, is Foles upstaging him?

Reads more like a buy low list, though.

[hoyasaxa]

For QB, I think Cam is a great gamble for next season. I'm a little worried about his shoulder, but if he's healthy, I think that offense will be at a different level this season than they've been recently. I also like Winston a lot as a buy, but I think people are excited about the Arians hire at the moment, so wouldn't pursue him right now.

At RB, he's not cheap, but I like Mixon to take a big leap and put himself in the second tier of dynasty RB's. McKinnon owners may be frustrated despite owning him all season, and I don't think his trade value is high but he should have a good opportunity /situation next season.

I like the WR list above: OBJ, AJG, Evans, Diggs, M Williams. All are expensive, but can potentially be acquired at good value. WR's i think make the leap to elite (which are close already) are Golladay, Kupp, and Fuller. Landry is probably a good buy right now; people are concerned about his situation more than they should be. At a much cheaper price tag are Curtis Samuel and Geronimo Allison.

At TE, I'm as lost as everyone else right now.

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A few others just came to be juvenile trolls...

Here is your exact wording:

I’d like to hear who people are targeting this off season.

You could call them “buys,” or guys you have a feeling about and are willing to go after and pay market price or more because you think they are worth it to get your guys, or just guys you like slightly better than the market does.

Pointing you to threads about players people are targeting or "buys", etc. is exactly where you were directed. You then followed that up with an additional request about consolidation. Those are not one and the same. Just because you interpreted your post one way, do not assume others read it the same.

The replies were nothing "troll like" in any way...

[Elroypedro]

A few others just came to be juvenile trolls...

Here is your exact wording:

I’d like to hear who people are targeting this off season.

You could call them “buys,” or guys you have a feeling about and are willing to go after and pay market price or more because you think they are worth it to get your guys, or just guys you like slightly better than the market does.

Pointing you to threads about players people are targeting or "buys", etc. is exactly where you were directed. You then followed that up with an additional request about consolidation. Those are not one and the same. Just because you interpreted your post one way, do not assume others read it the same.

The replies were nothing "troll like" in any way...

Beyond being just factually incorrect(more accurately I could say you are lying by omission), this exact post right here is a troll post, meant to make this thread all about you. Just don't respond if you don't have anything constructive to add or have an urge to derail a thread for attention.

[Pet_Smith]

If your focus is non-elite non-fliers, this could be useful- viewtopic.php?f=5&t=176443

QB options-
R Wilson- the drumbeat of low pass volume could push his value down
M Ryan- another OC, age isn't on his side
Wentz- two straight years ending on IR, is Foles upstaging him?

Reads more like a buy low list, though.

Maybe add Rodgers to the list for targets this year. Down year for him but was still posting "elite" numbers, and most are expecting a bounce back from him. Wouldn't be surprised to see him back as the dynasty QB1 this time next year.

[Orenthal Shames]

I genuinely don't know the difference between an off-season target vs a target for consolidation.

[FiremanEd]

I genuinely don't know the difference between an off-season target vs a target for consolidation.

There isn’t any. Consolidation is simply a type of trading or method of roster management. The argument it changes the types of player targets doesn’t really make sense, as you can consolidate to make a deal for any player.