2019 Bad Trade Offers

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:37 am

sugbear65 wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:23 am Does this bother you guys that much? I mean I’ll take a “bad offer” any day over the owner that never sends anything and relies on you to make the offers. Think of them less as “bad offers” and more as “conversation starters”. Getting upset or insulted by someone actually taking time to send something over is being pretty thin skinned. Just get over them “feelings” or emotions or whatever it is, and try to find a deal that does work. Or clam up, get pissed, and miss out on a possible trade. That’s an option too I guess.
I generally agree with you, but save for a few people on here, I think most are just showing the bad offers off. Not sure what it helps. Maybe seeing what players are of most and least interest to people?

I also think it's a good way to start conversation, but usually when it is this far off, the deal never goes anywhere. Especially in the case above with the guy wanting Gordon AND Cooks. Wanting the best 2 pieces but only willing to part with depth and aging players is a sign that there's no reasonable deal to be had. Maybe not ALL time, but mostly

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby myndflyte » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:42 am

I think it's just another way to see trades. Should people post bad offers that are going to be rejected in their own treads? I just personally like to see as many trade offers on here as I can to get an idea, in my mind, of the kind of offers that are good, bad, or a piece or two away. I'm not posting to complain, but mainly to get validation that a trade off I thought was bad, really was bad.
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby murphysxm » Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:43 am

Bot101 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:55 pm
cazzie33 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:02 pm Just out of curiosity what does the Bot101 set as Saquon's fair value in his 1QB lg. ?

I don't think the offer was a deal I'd do for Barkley either. Not even close to an insulting offer though. Fournette is injury prone, Tarik a bit hit or miss and Mayfield nothing outstanding in a 1 QB but all are startable talents. Especially if it's a PPR then Cohen goes way up.

Not enough but far from terrible.
Nah I'm done with this thread. If thats the Barkley price I would highly recommend everyone go make that offer and come back and tell everyone what happened.
take a breathe. The offer was light, but not insulting, which to me is the intent of the thread.
I am just a guy sharing some thoughts

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby bjd5211 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:42 am

14 team SF

Give: Russell Wilson

Get: 1.04 and Gronk

It is TE Premium, but I already have Kittle, Henry, Andrews, Goedert. Gronk is about to retire and even if he doesn't he's not remotely the same player.

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby MucBuc » Mon Jan 14, 2019 9:48 am

FiremanEd wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 6:20 am
MucBuc wrote: Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:15 am Give: Kittle

Get: K. Rudolph + pick #26

FWIW, it's a 32 team league, so the pick is actually a first-rounder there.
Double player copy? IDP? Often those leagues are, and if so and it is converted to the #13 pick, the value changes significantly. Not saying accept worthy, but just curious.
The settings are single player and IDP, but IDP scoring settings are rather low in that league (the top 2018 IDP was the #39 scoring player overall) so it's very unlikely I would find a significant upgrade over my current IDP starters at #26. Also, my team is already very strong at most positions and set up to contend for years to come, so I see no reason in this offer. However, the other owner is rather new in the league, so I guess he's just kicking the tires.
3x teams in 32-team standard PPR + IDP leagues

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:42 am

bjd5211 wrote: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:42 am 14 team SF

Give: Russell Wilson

Get: 1.04 and Gronk

It is TE Premium, but I already have Kittle, Henry, Andrews, Goedert. Gronk is about to retire and even if he doesn't he's not remotely the same player.
Now this this is bad

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby heyfeefellskee » Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:36 am

Bot101 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:55 pm
cazzie33 wrote: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:02 pm Just out of curiosity what does the Bot101 set as Saquon's fair value in his 1QB lg. ?

I don't think the offer was a deal I'd do for Barkley either. Not even close to an insulting offer though. Fournette is injury prone, Tarik a bit hit or miss and Mayfield nothing outstanding in a 1 QB but all are startable talents. Especially if it's a PPR then Cohen goes way up.

Not enough but far from terrible.
Nah I'm done with this thread. If thats the Barkley price I would highly recommend everyone go make that offer and come back and tell everyone what happened.
byeeeeeee

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby fantasyhermit » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:32 am

Won the title this year and shopping some of my big pieces to get younger.
Got this gem of an offer recently. 12 team, ppr, RB premium (0.5 ppc), start 2 te, TE Prem 1.5 ppr

Give: DJ, Kelce
Get: Fuller, '19 1.05.
Team 1:
12 team SF PPR/2PPR TE Prem, .2 ppc
Q-SF-R-W-F-F-F-F-T-T
QB: Wilson, Cousins, Fitz, Flacco, Lock
RB: Jacobs, CEH, DJ, Dillon, Michel, Royce, Lewis, Bruce Anderson, Gus, Warren
WR: MT, Amari, Kupp, Pittman, Miller, Agholor, John Brown, Enunwa, Foster, Wilson, Preston Williams, AB
TE: Kelce, Kittle, Tonyan, Davis, Dissly, Knox, T.Moss


Team 2:
Q-SF-R-R-W-W-F-F-T-T-D-K-IDP-IDP PPR
QB: Mahomes, TLaw, Darnold, Bridgewater
RB: Zeke, Swift, Singletary, Dillon, Mack, Penny, LMurray
WR: MT, DJ Moore, Sutton, Slayton, Tyler Boyd, Mims, Edwards, Van Jefferson, Miller
TE: Gesicki, Hooper, Knox
Def: Chi
K: Elliot
IDP: Bosa, LVE, Flowers

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:23 pm

i am back to back champion with no real holes.

give: Ty Hill
get: Corey Davis and a 3rd.

decline

give: Ty Hill and a 4th
get: Davis and D Lewis

got about 5 more similar offers of some combo of davis lewis and ty williams.
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:30 pm

Bot101 wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:28 pm
Elroypedro wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:17 pm
Bot101 wrote: Wed Jan 09, 2019 7:51 pm Ive got a bunch of these. But I'll go with this for now. Team in sig. I asked about Baker. Got an offer of:

Get:
Baker Mayfield
Tarik Cohen
Leonard Fournette

Give:
Saquon Barkley
That’s not a bad offer. Maybe add a pick and it is even, whether you like it for your team or not. And in SF or 2QB it is at least even
Yes it is an atrocious offer. Look in sig. 1 QB league. Fournette is a hot potato who I dont want to get stuck with. Cohen is a 180 scat back that gets game scripted out or forgotten about.

And thats close to a 225 lb version of Barry Sanders? Cmon you guys cant be serious? Unless you're the ones who send trash offers like this too :shock:
im a pretty big LF guy and i will even say this is a laughable offer. shoe on the other foot you guys would never even consider parting with barkley for LF a qb and a small scat back highly elevated by TDs
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram

2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)

team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,


1,2,3,3,5

team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson

Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Mjvb5 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:55 pm

BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:23 pm i am back to back champion with no real holes.

give: Ty Hill
get: Corey Davis and a 3rd.

decline

give: Ty Hill and a 4th
get: Davis and D Lewis

got about 5 more similar offers of some combo of davis lewis and ty williams.
Hey man I’ll give you this guy who hasn’t done anything yet in two years and a throw in for a guy in contention for dynasty #1

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby Jigga94 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:20 pm

Mjvb5 wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:55 pm
BigBawseRoss wrote: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:23 pm i am back to back champion with no real holes.

give: Ty Hill
get: Corey Davis and a 3rd.

decline

give: Ty Hill and a 4th
get: Davis and D Lewis

got about 5 more similar offers of some combo of davis lewis and ty williams.
Hey man I’ll give you this guy who hasn’t done anything yet in two years and a throw in for a guy in contention for dynasty #1
Hey man I'm trying to get a stud without giving up a stud myself. I don't want to give up a starter either. I think if you combine both of those players points (for their entire career) it is equal to what Tyreek did this year. Doubt he ever does it again. I bet Corey Davis is the next Tyreek next year. Tyreek has to regress some too. I'm so high on Davis and low on Tyreek, you'd be making MY team worse. I just wanna help YOU get that 3peat.

Sorry, I'm bored lol

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby FiremanEd » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:30 pm

I feel like Gronkowski owners are trying to sell above his current pay grade, which to any non-owner is mostly a hands off commodity. Not great (for Gronkowski) statistical season, retirement talk, seeing far less targets as the year has gone on...it is just a terrible time to buy, but owners are offering like nothing’s happening. That just me or are people still feeling him?

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby saw061600 » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:59 pm

New Year's Resolution was not to post here but then, well this happened.

Give: Golladay
Get: Ingram and Doug Martin

To be fair, it is 10 points per touch for guys with names ending in "M" and "N". Oh wait, NO IT'S NOT!!
10 TM No PPR or waiver 85RST
Herbert Fields Garoppolo Ridder
JT Barkley Etienne Ingram Charb CEH
Evans Aiyuk Dionte Jeudy London JWill GWils EMoore JMyers Mims Moorex2
Andrews Kinkaid Pits Freiermuth
NBosa Quinnen DJJones Clark F-Myers Taylor Graham
Darius Okereke Kendricks DCampbell DJones Baker Kiser Brooks
Adams Simmons Vaccaro Joseph

12 TM .5ppr 45 RST
Herbert Stroud Mayfield
JT Achane Kamara Ford Pacheco Jaleel
AJB DK Godwin Aiyuk Kirk ZJones RMoore Thornton
Hock F-muth
LWilliams Payne Reed Greenard
Bernard Kendricks Warner Baker Williams Tranquil
Budda McKinney Clark Wilson

1-2QB 2-4RB 3-5WR 1-3TE 11OFF/DEF
Herbert Stafford Brock Dobbs
Taylor Jacobs Mattison Kyren Jaleel Ford Bigsby
AJB Diggs Evans Kirk McLaurin Dionte Boyd Renfrow JuJu
Kelce Pitts Deguara
Hutchinson Rousseau Greenard Travon Demarcus
QWilliams EJones TBernard Dean ShaqT Kyzir
Amos Bates Peppers Murray Fitz Clark

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Re: 2019 Bad Trade Offers

Postby myndflyte » Wed Jan 16, 2019 5:02 am

Well here we go again. There is one guy in my league that sends stuff like this all the time. I don't know if I just decline, try to show him that it's completely a horrible offer, or just counter with a totally lopsided trade in my favor.

Give: Melvin Gordon, Ekeler, Yeldon, Deon Cain, Golladay, 2-2019 3rds
Get: Hunt, Michel, Zenner, Marvin Jones, Brate
12 team 0.5 pt PPR; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 2 Flex
QB: Rodgers, Prescott, Lauletta (R)
RB: Gordon, Ajayi, Collins, Yeldon, Ekeler, Martin, Grant, Mizzell, David Williams, Jeffery Wilson, Warren
WR: Cooks, Boyd, Marvin Jones, Lockett, Coleman, Doctson, Goodwin, Cobb, T. Williams, Z. Jones, Roberts, Tate (R), Cain (R), Ellington, Cody Core, Beebe
TE: Kelce, Cook, Conklin, LaCosse
2019 Picks: 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 5

12 team 1 pt PPR SF IDP; 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1 SFlex, 3 Flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB, 1 IDP Flex
QB: Newton, Stafford, Bortles, Kessler
RB: Hunt, Mixon, Lewis, Ekeler, Thompson, Bernard, Davis, Blount
WR: Evans, Lockett, Marvin Jones, Sanders, Lee, Pettis, Crabtree, Cole, Ateman, Lasley
TE: Rudolph, Seals-Jones
DL: Jordon, Ingram
LB: Jarrad Davis, Alonso, Avery Williamson, Warner, Van Noy, Golden, Baker, Shaun Dion Hamilton
DB: Poyer, Kazee, Collins, Jenkins, Cyprien
2019 Picks: 1.05, 2.05, 3.05, 4.05, 5.05, 6.05, 7.05


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