Fair, but it's a tough ask for a rookie QB to overcome a poor offensive line and offensive scheme. I'd also argue that while Fitzgerald is still a capable NFL receiver, they have a below average receiving corps overall. I think we'll see some improvement this year.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:48 amwell, i mean that depends. you can't just throw out a terrible rookie year. Most franchise Qb's look at least competent their rookie year. Who else looked lost their rookie year and turned out to be pretty good. Can't think of any off the top of my head aside from Goff, although i'm sure there are more.
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Re: Rosen, Year 2
just a few more...Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:48 am well, i mean that depends. you can't just throw out a terrible rookie year. Most franchise Qb's look at least competent their rookie year. Who else looked lost their rookie year and turned out to be pretty good. Can't think of any off the top of my head aside from Goff, although i'm sure there are more.
Matthew Stafford
Eli Manning
Drew Brees in his first 3 years
Alex Smith
Nick Foles
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Some of those are good. Some not so much. A few threw for a lot more yards per game though. Also, I don't know how they "looked". There's a difference between throwing a lot of INT's and looking in over your head. From what I watched of Rosen it looked like his mental processing was slow. Foles hasn't even thrown for 3k yards in a season i think.MucBuc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:14 pmjust a few more...Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:48 am well, i mean that depends. you can't just throw out a terrible rookie year. Most franchise Qb's look at least competent their rookie year. Who else looked lost their rookie year and turned out to be pretty good. Can't think of any off the top of my head aside from Goff, although i'm sure there are more.
Matthew Stafford
Eli Manning
Drew Brees in his first 3 years
Alex Smith
Nick Foles
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Drew Brees got replaced by Philip Rivers. Alex Smith got replaced by Kaep. Their own coaching staff gave up on them.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 1:52 pmSome of those are good. Some not so much. A few threw for a lot more yards per game though. Also, I don't know how they "looked". There's a difference between throwing a lot of INT's and looking in over your head. From what I watched of Rosen it looked like his mental processing was slow. Foles hasn't even thrown for 3k yards in a season i think.MucBuc wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:14 pmjust a few more...Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 11:48 am well, i mean that depends. you can't just throw out a terrible rookie year. Most franchise Qb's look at least competent their rookie year. Who else looked lost their rookie year and turned out to be pretty good. Can't think of any off the top of my head aside from Goff, although i'm sure there are more.
Matthew Stafford
Eli Manning
Drew Brees in his first 3 years
Alex Smith
Nick Foles
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Drew Brees got pushed out the door because the Chargers (a) invested a high draft pick on Rivers and (b) Brees had hurt his shoulder. IIRC, Brees had taken them to the playoffs and played very well.
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They invested a high draft pick in Rivers because up until that year, Brees had played poorly.Cult of Dionysus wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 7:56 pm Drew Brees got pushed out the door because the Chargers (a) invested a high draft pick on Rivers and (b) Brees had hurt his shoulder. IIRC, Brees had taken them to the playoffs and played very well.
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Re: Rosen, Year 2
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Bucky Brooks feels Rosen should be traded and the Cardinals take Murray.
Bucky Brooks feels Rosen should be traded and the Cardinals take Murray.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Feels more like hype than realistic. I dunnoArrylT wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:23 pm http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -nfl-draft
Bucky Brooks feels Rosen should be traded and the Cardinals take Murray.
Re: Rosen, Year 2
Feels more like hype than realistic. I dunnoArrylT wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:23 pm http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -nfl-draft
Bucky Brooks feels Rosen should be traded and the Cardinals take Murray.
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I quite agree.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: Rosen, Year 2
The only way I can see the Cards taking Murray is if they trade down or acquire another 1st.
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Likely trying to drum up interest so they can trade back for a ransomJigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:43 pmFeels more like hype than realistic. I dunnoArrylT wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:23 pm http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -nfl-draft
Bucky Brooks feels Rosen should be traded and the Cardinals take Murray.
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I imagine they'd easily get a 1st back.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 6:11 pmLikely trying to drum up interest so they can trade back for a ransomJigga94 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:43 pmFeels more like hype than realistic. I dunnoArrylT wrote: ↑Fri Feb 15, 2019 5:23 pm http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... -nfl-draft
Bucky Brooks feels Rosen should be traded and the Cardinals take Murray.
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What are your thoughts on Josh Rosen. Does he eventually overtake Fitz and start the majority of the year in Miami and will he develop into a top fantasy Quarterback in time. May have a chance to acquire him in a trade and I think he could be good in time. Interested to see other opinions on him going forward........
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