Adam Humphries: The Humpty Hump or Humpty Dumpty?

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby ravn88 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:05 pm

Since his bye week, he has avg 13 PPG

Edelmann has 13.5 since his return.
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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:03 pm

He's their WR3 plus they use the TE a lot. Once they get a good run game his targets will drop even more. I agree with Lukky, Cole Beasley, slightly better Beasley if you wanna be picky about it.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby slaughterrt » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:32 pm

Haha

Kinda reminds me of an Eric Decker type...with a little Wes Welker swagger sprinkled in.

Definitely something similar about these WRs. Can’t quite place what it is though.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby ravn88 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:03 pm He's their WR3 plus they use the TE a lot. Once they get a good run game his targets will drop even more. I agree with Lukky, Cole Beasley, slightly better Beasley if you wanna be picky about it.
Yes as of right now.

But if you look at DeSean Jackson contract
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-b ... kson-3690/

Dont you think they will cut him this offseason ?
Is he really worth 10 mil.

Then they have him (if they pay him) and Godwin.
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QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

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TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby problemsolver » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:51 pm

Humphries is also an UFA after this season, so no guarantee he is back in TB next season.

If he visits NE this off season, you might be able to get a top 5 rookie draft pick for him.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:45 pm

I would pick these 12 to keep:

Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
Melvin Gordon, Joe Mixon, Aaron Jones, Mark Ingram
DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Marvin Jones
Evan Engram, Trey Burton

It's close between Marvin Jones and Adam Humphries if you want to gamble. DET could choose to cut Jones, and there are scenarios where I could see Humphries valued over Jones in the offseason. In such a shallow keeper format, go for upside outside of established elite players. If you have a feeling about Humphries, I have no issue with keeping him over Jones.
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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby ravn88 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:27 pm

WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:45 pm I would pick these 12 to keep:

Patrick Mahomes, Carson Wentz
Melvin Gordon, Joe Mixon, Aaron Jones, Mark Ingram
DeAndre Hopkins, Julio Jones, Keenan Allen, Marvin Jones
Evan Engram, Trey Burton

It's close between Marvin Jones and Adam Humphries if you want to gamble. DET could choose to cut Jones, and there are scenarios where I could see Humphries valued over Jones in the offseason. In such a shallow keeper format, go for upside outside of established elite players. If you have a feeling about Humphries, I have no issue with keeping him over Jones.
A few weeks ago, i was hoping that Humpries would continue, and Jones would the same so I could sell him, for maybe a late 1st.
I'm having a hard time selling my older players while they have value..

I most likely will be one of these 2
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby jordanzs » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:40 pm

slaughterrt wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:32 pm Haha

Kinda reminds me of an Eric Decker type...with a little Wes Welker swagger sprinkled in.

Definitely something similar about these WRs. Can’t quite place what it is though.
Nah man, I think you're wayyyy off base on those comparisons.

He's much more like a hybrid of Jordy, Edelman, and Amendola. And maybe sprinkle in a touch of Ed McCaffrey & Drew Bennett.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby Space Cowboy » Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 pm

ravn88 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:03 pm He's their WR3 plus they use the TE a lot. Once they get a good run game his targets will drop even more. I agree with Lukky, Cole Beasley, slightly better Beasley if you wanna be picky about it.
Yes as of right now.

But if you look at DeSean Jackson contract
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-b ... kson-3690/

Dont you think they will cut him this offseason ?
Is he really worth 10 mil.

Then they have him (if they pay him) and Godwin.
DJax is gone which is why I said he's their WR3.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby ravn88 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:06 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 pm
ravn88 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:03 pm He's their WR3 plus they use the TE a lot. Once they get a good run game his targets will drop even more. I agree with Lukky, Cole Beasley, slightly better Beasley if you wanna be picky about it.
Yes as of right now.

But if you look at DeSean Jackson contract
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-b ... kson-3690/

Dont you think they will cut him this offseason ?
Is he really worth 10 mil.

Then they have him (if they pay him) and Godwin.
DJax is gone which is why I said he's their WR3.
My bad.

It depends how you look at it I guess, Humpries has more targets than Godwin, and better points since their bye-week..
It's only because Godwin was very good the first 3 weeks.


Lets see which one get more targets and points the last 4 weeks.. Then we can decide who is WR2
Team 1 : 1QB 2RB 3 WR 1TE 1Flex 1K 1TM 2 IR 12 Keepers

QB: Carson Wentz, P. Mahomes
RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

QB: Wilson Wentz Tannehill Brees Haskins Foles
RB: CMC Zeke Miles CEH AP J. Jackson B. Scott
WR: Evans Adams Landry Metcalf E. Sanders Lazard
TE: Engram Hurts Ebron Herndon

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby Space Cowboy » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:41 pm

ravn88 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:06 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 pm
ravn88 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:42 pm

Yes as of right now.

But if you look at DeSean Jackson contract
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tampa-bay-b ... kson-3690/

Dont you think they will cut him this offseason ?
Is he really worth 10 mil.

Then they have him (if they pay him) and Godwin.
DJax is gone which is why I said he's their WR3.
My bad.

It depends how you look at it I guess, Humpries has more targets than Godwin, and better points since their bye-week..
It's only because Godwin was very good the first 3 weeks.


Lets see which one get more targets and points the last 4 weeks.. Then we can decide who is WR2
You're kidding yourself if you think Humphries has more real life or FF value than Godwin. It's not even close to being somewhat close.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby ninotoreS » Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:53 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:23 am
ravn88 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:21 am Something about him makes me think of a young(er) Thielen.
Hmm, wonder what that something could be
laughed out loud

Thielen is 6'2" and has enough speed, size, and play-strength to line up anywhere and make plays deep. Humphries is strictly a slot receiver with little big play ability. They aren't comparable. And no, their career arcs aren't very similar, either. Thielen broke out big in year 3 after being given little playing-time his first two years (coaching error / mis-evaluation), Humphries has averaged 40-50 yards a week with 10-11 ypr since year 2 and has plateaued at that level. OP definitely made the comparison based on race and (lack of) draft pedigree, whether the former is a Freudian slip or not.

Anyway. As a slot-only guy, Humphries is slightly better than JAG. Let's not overstate what he's presently doing: he's averaging 50 yards a week for an offense that has no choice but to throw a lot because 1.) their team's defense is comically bad and forces the Bucs to chase the scoreboard every week 2.) the offensive-line is dead last in the league in ALY and can't run-block at all.

Adam Humphries is a reliable low-depth target with above-average savvy against zone-coverage. And that's about the sum of his plus traits.
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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby ravn88 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 4:14 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:41 pm
ravn88 wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 4:06 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Tue Dec 04, 2018 3:57 pm

DJax is gone which is why I said he's their WR3.
My bad.

It depends how you look at it I guess, Humpries has more targets than Godwin, and better points since their bye-week..
It's only because Godwin was very good the first 3 weeks.


Lets see which one get more targets and points the last 4 weeks.. Then we can decide who is WR2
You're kidding yourself if you think Humphries has more real life or FF value than Godwin. It's not even close to being somewhat close.
Im not saying that, Im just saying he is outscoring Godwin.
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RB: A. Jones, MGIII, Dobbins, L. Bell, Ingram, J Williams & Gaskin
WR: D. Hopkins, J. Jones, K. Allen, J Crowder, Humpries & Agolor
TE: E. Engram, Trey Burton, V Davis & J. Doyle

Team 2: 1QB 1 SF 3RB 5WR 2TE 2FLEX DEF 26 Keepers 2019 Champ :thumbup: 2020 third place

QB: J. Allen Wentz Watson D. Lock.
RB: Barkley Zeke CEH J. Robinson D. Freeman Penny
WR: M. Thomas Cooper Godwin Juju J. Washington Renfrow, Jeudy, R. Moore TreQuan, P. Williams
TE: Waller Engram OJH & Everett
DEF: Pats & Browns

Team 3: 1QB 1SF 2RB 2WR 1TE 1FLEX DEF K

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby Jason3123 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:50 pm

3rd straight season with >600 yards. 70% career catch rate. Solid depth player to have. WR10 in PPR since week 7. Imagine if he ends up in Indy or any decent landing spot and can get 100 targets. Would be a quality starter for fantasy teams.

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Re: Adam Humpries - What's the deal.?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Wed Dec 05, 2018 6:12 pm

Jason3123 wrote: Wed Dec 05, 2018 5:50 pm 3rd straight season with >600 yards. 70% career catch rate. Solid depth player to have. WR10 in PPR since week 7. Imagine if he ends up in Indy or any decent landing spot and can get 100 targets. Would be a quality starter for fantasy teams.
I mean sure, he could have the season Willie Snead had a couple years ago. Useful, yes. But nothing to get too excited about.
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