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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby ericanadian » Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:44 pm

badbuddah wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:16 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:11 pm
badbuddah wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:06 pm

But none of us were raised like them most likely. These dudes come from the hood and they are conditioned to respond to wild'n'out people with violence
That's a pretty wild generalization. Who is "them" referring to here?
Many poor black athletes from the inner cities, which make up a majority of the NFL. Any more questions?
Hunt was born and raised in the mean streets of Willoughby, OH in the burbs of Cleveland. The average household income is just over $40K, it’s mostly white (like 90%+ according to the last census) and pretty sure it doesn’t qualify as inner city.
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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby Jigga94 » Sun Dec 09, 2018 6:24 pm

ericanadian wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 5:44 pm
badbuddah wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:16 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:11 pm

That's a pretty wild generalization. Who is "them" referring to here?
Many poor black athletes from the inner cities, which make up a majority of the NFL. Any more questions?
Hunt was born and raised in the mean streets of Willoughby, OH in the burbs of Cleveland. The average household income is just over $40K, it’s mostly white (like 90%+ according to the last census) and pretty sure it doesn’t qualify as inner city.
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Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Dec 09, 2018 9:25 pm

LOL.
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Postby Patsfan86 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:49 pm

badbuddah wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:06 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:47 pm I did some dumb dumb dumb stuff at 23, I was drunk to the point of belligerence many nights, but I still never found myself in any physical fights, ever. No excuses should be made for Hunt. Hunt needed to just step away, he didn't, these are the consequences, live with them.
But none of us were raised like them most likely. These dudes come from the hood and they are conditioned to respond to wild'n'out people with violence, lest they be accused of being a bitch or worse. The tough guy mentality can be hard to break. I'm not trying to make excuses but explain why this happens. Not everyone was raised in a nice two parent stable household. We were poor as hell growing up but I was lucky to have both parents, and a sound raising.
Bad argument since there are hundreds of NFL players who are from the hood who DONT get in trouble and DONT hit women. Also assuming how everyone on a message board was raised is quite a reach.

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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby badbuddah » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:49 pm

Weknownothing86 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:49 pm
badbuddah wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:06 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote: Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:47 pm I did some dumb dumb dumb stuff at 23, I was drunk to the point of belligerence many nights, but I still never found myself in any physical fights, ever. No excuses should be made for Hunt. Hunt needed to just step away, he didn't, these are the consequences, live with them.
But none of us were raised like them most likely. These dudes come from the hood and they are conditioned to respond to wild'n'out people with violence, lest they be accused of being a bitch or worse. The tough guy mentality can be hard to break. I'm not trying to make excuses but explain why this happens. Not everyone was raised in a nice two parent stable household. We were poor as hell growing up but I was lucky to have both parents, and a sound raising.
Bad argument since there are hundreds of NFL players who are from the hood who DONT get in trouble and DONT hit women. Also assuming how everyone on a message board was raised is quite a reach.
Then he has ZERO excuses. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. In Kareem's defense, she was being a total THOT but he HAS to know to go back inside and call the cops, or hotel security. Why does she get off scot free though when she hit him and called him the N word supposedly? That I would like to know.
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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby Krypto_King » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm

I dunno, listening to Serial, the suburbs of Cleveland do not sound like a nice place to be for young, black folks

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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby ericanadian » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:55 pm

Krypto_King wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:02 pm I dunno, listening to Serial, the suburbs of Cleveland do not sound like a nice place to be for young, black folks
That’s very possible. Was more a point about stereotyping than any argument for or against his environment being good or bad.
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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby Titans95 » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:57 pm

badbuddah wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:49 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:49 pm
badbuddah wrote: Sun Dec 09, 2018 3:06 pm

But none of us were raised like them most likely. These dudes come from the hood and they are conditioned to respond to wild'n'out people with violence, lest they be accused of being a bitch or worse. The tough guy mentality can be hard to break. I'm not trying to make excuses but explain why this happens. Not everyone was raised in a nice two parent stable household. We were poor as hell growing up but I was lucky to have both parents, and a sound raising.
Bad argument since there are hundreds of NFL players who are from the hood who DONT get in trouble and DONT hit women. Also assuming how everyone on a message board was raised is quite a reach.
Then he has ZERO excuses. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. In Kareem's defense, she was being a total THOT but he HAS to know to go back inside and call the cops, or hotel security. Why does she get off scot free though when she hit him and called him the N word supposedly? That I would like to know.
Because its all about equality....when convenient. But the reality is that no charges were filed against either one of them, and their shouldn't have been. She got of with ne repercussions because she doesn't have a multi million dollar job to lose, he does.

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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby Jfever » Wed Dec 12, 2018 8:07 am

Titans95 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:57 pm
badbuddah wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:49 pm
Weknownothing86 wrote: Mon Dec 10, 2018 1:49 pm

Bad argument since there are hundreds of NFL players who are from the hood who DONT get in trouble and DONT hit women. Also assuming how everyone on a message board was raised is quite a reach.
Then he has ZERO excuses. I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. In Kareem's defense, she was being a total THOT but he HAS to know to go back inside and call the cops, or hotel security. Why does she get off scot free though when she hit him and called him the N word supposedly? That I would like to know.
Because its all about equality....when convenient. But the reality is that no charges were filed against either one of them, and their shouldn't have been. She got of with ne repercussions because she doesn't have a multi million dollar job to lose, he does.
Well, I'll have to disagree here. If it was Joe schmo involved with something like that in a random hotel at that time of night... Well, safe to say there would likely have been charges filed. I'm no legal expert, nor, was I there, but, it sure looks like there was an incident that was swept under the rug.
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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby ArrylT » Wed Dec 12, 2018 9:09 pm

Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby hockeyBjj » Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 am

Pretty good USA today article about Kareem's family's criminal history. He's from the suburbs, but sure sounds like inner city with the escape to sports being the only (seeable) way out

Dad has 35 arrests, 9 years prison for domestic violence and drugs

Brother 2 years for criminal trespassing

Mother has multiple duis and a conviction of cocaine possession

Stepfather 8 years drug trafficking and related offenses

Cousin 23 years for manslaughter

Uncle 10 years drug trafficking

Cousin 12 years drug and gun related of fence

Four other cousins with drug related felonies

I found it interesting. Definitely seems that a person with a rough upbringing like that could have some anger issues hidden underneath the surface that alcohol brings out, and less of a social unacceptable line to crossing it into violence
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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby ArrylT » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:20 am

Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:59 pm

hockeyBjj wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 am Pretty good USA today article about Kareem's family's criminal history. He's from the suburbs, but sure sounds like inner city with the escape to sports being the only (seeable) way out

Dad has 35 arrests, 9 years prison for domestic violence and drugs

Brother 2 years for criminal trespassing

Mother has multiple duis and a conviction of cocaine possession

Stepfather 8 years drug trafficking and related offenses

Cousin 23 years for manslaughter

Uncle 10 years drug trafficking

Cousin 12 years drug and gun related of fence

Four other cousins with drug related felonies

I found it interesting. Definitely seems that a person with a rough upbringing like that could have some anger issues hidden underneath the surface that alcohol brings out, and less of a social unacceptable line to crossing it into violence
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If all of this is true I feel bad for Hunt, however there is still no excuse for his behavior. I work with poor 18-24 year old minorities so I know the population a little bit, and the struggles they face with anger and other issues. Most of them have grown up with the same kind of background and would still never do this, and that's in their current situation while they are poor. Hunt being a pro athlete has even less of an excuse since he does not have the stress of being dead broke anymore like the people I work with. There is just no excuse for this kind of behavior on any level but even less of an excuse for a pro athlete who IS held to a higher standard because of who they are and has everything they need.

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Postby clarion contrarion » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:00 pm

hunt family sounds like a swell bunch seems to me that the kid had zero positive role models and turned out better than he could have expected all said and done . I laughed out loud last night as aikman and buck heaped praise on tyreek hill meanwhile hunt is looking at a possible 20 game or more (lifetime) suspension if in fact he gets axed for all of 2019 as has been speculated .

All the liberal beta boys screaming about injustice for the tard kaepernick who gave away 14 MM$ final year of his deal to test the market only to have the market bend him over and educate him about the power of patriotism to the brainwashed consumer masses programmed to relish symbolism, that ilk needs to be screaming about this injustice . So hunt shoved a drunken idiot chick and kicked her softly - repugnant no argument from ol CC but really the fact joe mixon didn't get blackballed or tyreek hill didn't get black balled makes what hunt did seem like a beheading for a pillow fight.

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Re: Kareem Hunt Video

Postby Patsfan86 » Fri Dec 14, 2018 1:01 pm

Weknownothing86 wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:59 pm
hockeyBjj wrote: Fri Dec 14, 2018 9:54 am Pretty good USA today article about Kareem's family's criminal history. He's from the suburbs, but sure sounds like inner city with the escape to sports being the only (seeable) way out

Dad has 35 arrests, 9 years prison for domestic violence and drugs

Brother 2 years for criminal trespassing

Mother has multiple duis and a conviction of cocaine possession

Stepfather 8 years drug trafficking and related offenses

Cousin 23 years for manslaughter

Uncle 10 years drug trafficking

Cousin 12 years drug and gun related of fence

Four other cousins with drug related felonies

I found it interesting. Definitely seems that a person with a rough upbringing like that could have some anger issues hidden underneath the surface that alcohol brings out, and less of a social unacceptable line to crossing it into violence
If all of this is true I feel bad for Hunts upbringing, however there is still no excuse for his behavior. I work with poor 18-24 year old minorities so I know the population a little bit, and the struggles they face with anger and other issues. Most of them have grown up with the same kind of background and would still never do this, and that's in their current situation while they are poor. Hunt being a pro athlete has even less of an excuse since he does not have the stress of being dead broke anymore like the people I work with. There is just no excuse for this kind of behavior on any level but even less of an excuse for a pro athlete who IS held to a higher standard because of who they are and has everything they need.


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