Veto?

[The Fantasy Feud]

Here’s the situation. I’m commissioner of a league that is unfortunately beginning to implode because there are 3-4 teams with a chance and the rest are dog crap. My team has won 3 years in a row now and another guys team is the most insane i’ve ever seen because some people in the league are just bad at this. An email thread went out last week about possibly starting over because it is unfair, which was argued about but it all calmed down. And then this happens.

Second best team in the league trades the 1.02-1.04 (Could fall anywhere between there, currently is the 1.4). and Tyler Lockett

Gets: the 1.1 from the worst team in the league with absolutely no future

How do i go about this? Literally just had an email argument about this league possibly bring over and now we have the worst team trading there best asset so they can get tyler lockett?????

Am i overreacting or is this not okay?

[thebeast]

Overreacting, prepare for tar and feathering for suggesting veto.

However, it sounds like a lot of owners may not be having fun, so your league is likely on life support anyway.

[ArrylT]

If you veto the trade - I think that you're going to have to remove one of the 2 owners. The only reasons to veto are collusion / cheating and owner incompetence (like trading Michael Thomas for a 3rd). In which case in either scenario an owner has to be replaced.

If you feel that some teams are too strong - and take advantage of other teams too easily - then there are other actions you can take - such as replacing them in the off-season, directing them to dynasty sites such as DLF, additional draft picks for those teams that they CANNOT trade away (supplemental picks), declaring it an empire league & rebooting & so forth. Which solution applies depends on the length of time your league has existed & ownership.

But vetoing that trade, and leaving both owners in place, means you are no longer allowing the owners to run their teams. And that repurcussion will damage your league much faster than allowing that trade. 1.01 may have more value than 1.04 & Lockett at the moment but if you drafted Treadwell at 1.01 in 2016 and 1.04 took Michael Thomas .... even Fournette owners vs. CMC owners.

[The Fantasy Feud]

I agree with both of you. I probably shouldn’t have brought up the disgraced word “veto” but what I really meant what how do you handle a situation where a league is falling apart because this guys team has (start 4!!) AB, AJ Green, Julio, Mike Evans and Deandre Hopkins........) Not to mention his RBs (Start 2!!!) are Zeke, Melvin, Cook, Guice and his QB (Start 1!!!) are Luck and Rodgers

Props to him for making an insane team, but you can clearly see why it’s become not fun for other people. Now he has the 1.1, it’s a never ending cycle that’s gone on for 3 years with trade rapes. Hard to deal with.

[ArrylT]

That is where I make sure that you vet carefully in the future and make sure every owner has had some modicrum of dynasty experience & can prove it - and this is in no way meant to suggest blame. It is tough to ensure every single owner is active & fully engaged - and even when they are they all have different valuations & ways to build their teams. The elite owners know how to massage trades out of every type of owner - and you cannot stop that.

Apart from that you ride it out - trust me I know the feeling - I am in a league where I feel I patiently built my team and there is a guy who is likely to win his 3rd straight championship because he keeps 'taking advantage' of other teams. But nothing he is doing is wrong. He takes 2 nickels, turns them into a dime, takes 2 dimes turns it into a quarter. Takes 3 quarters and gets a dollar. Repeat. He does not do it to my team because I force him to pay full-price - but if another team is rebuilding and wants to sell at his price *shrugs*

That is where the empire league strategy comes in - you can after year 5 of one team winning all five championships congratulate them to the high heavens - and then so long as you have the support of the majority of owners - clean the slate and start over. If they disagree you can return any deposits or future fees & thank them for their support but that you feel it is necessary to start over for the best of the league.

Or, if you get several new owners at once, you can require all remaining teams to allow some players unprotected, and add them to the dispersal draft. Obviously a stronger team is going to have better assets to toss in.

[Dynasty_Analyst]

I've been guilty of taking advantage of incompetent owners in the past. One league did a reboot another league made me give up 3 guys (1 to each of the poor teams). A reboot is probably best maybe they'll be smarter this go around after seeing how dynasty works, or you can just find better owners.

[Cult of Dionysus]

Sounds like a few guys need to go back to ESPN redraft.

[bjd5211]

No vetoes. Plus I don't even think this trade is all that off to begin with, there's no Saquon or Zeke this year so the difference between #1 and number 4 isn't likely to be massive and Lockett is worth around a late 1 imo. So this deal is roughly 1.04 + 1.12 for 1.01, seems about right. If the league doesn't like this one owner being so much better than them then they should focus more on becoming better players and traders themselves than getting mad about being dominated by an owner who is just better at the game than they are.

[Jigga94]

Sounds like a few guys need to go back to ESPN redraft.

I'm offended. Why the hate for ESPN? Haha

[FantasyFreak]

With no clear 1.01, I'd argue the team with 1.01 actually won the trade. Lockett is having a good year, is only 26, and there is a good chance whoever he gets between 1.02-1.04 will be better than the 1.01. Unlike previous years, with Barkley, Zeke etc., this year has no elite player head and shoulders above the group. It's actually a smart trade for a rebuilder to make, he is expanding his assets.

[ravn88]

Here’s the situation. I’m commissioner of a league that is unfortunately beginning to implode because there are 3-4 teams with a chance and the rest are dog crap. My team has won 3 years in a row now and another guys team is the most insane i’ve ever seen because some people in the league are just bad at this. An email thread went out last week about possibly starting over because it is unfair, which was argued about but it all calmed down. And then this happens.

Second best team in the league trades the 1.02-1.04 (Could fall anywhere between there, currently is the 1.4). and Tyler Lockett

Gets: the 1.1 from the worst team in the league with absolutely no future

How do i go about this? Literally just had an email argument about this league possibly bring over and now we have the worst team trading there best asset so they can get tyler lockett?????

Am i overreacting or is this not okay?

If you kick One out, i would like to take over One of the bad teams

[Dynasty DeLorean]

I don’t see what the big deal is about the trade. It’s not like he traded Saquon for that

[dynastyninja]

Issues with your league aside, I think that is an extremely even deal and have no idea why anyone would want to veto it.

Not really even a discussion in my mind.

[ArrylT]

There is always 1 owner somewhere who thinks any offer is bad for 1 team involved.

[M-Dub]

Nothing wrong with that trade at all.