I am aware MNF has yet to play and there are still 2 bye weeks to deal with but with pretty much 10 weeks under wraps ...
just curious to see who thinks which player(s) will fall out of the top 12 aka QB1 / RB1 / WR1 / TE1
So peruse the lists and see who you'd remove and list who you would add.
Players in BOLD have not had a bye
Players yet to play
Giants
Saquon Barkley - Already a RB1
Odell Beckham - Already a WR1
Sterling Shepard - Would need 45 poitns today to reach WR1
Evan Engram - Would need 36 points today to reach TE1
Eli Manning - Would need 63 points today to reach QB1
49ers
George Kittle - Already a TE1
Matt Breida - Would need 42 points today to reach RB1
No WR or QB anywhere near WR1 / QB 1 range
Using standard PPR Scoring
WRs 1-12
Thielen - 216
M. Thomas - 215
T. Hill - 206
Adams - 194
Hopkins - 194
A Brown - 186
Julio Jones - 184
Woods - 167
Cooks - 164
Sanders - 161
Beckham - 159
Evans - 157
The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
Last edited by ArrylT on Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:17 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers
Top 7 are heavy hitters. Nothing surprising in those names
Thielen
M. Thomas
T. Hill
Adams
Hopkins
A Brown
Julio Jones
Beckham (he belongs in this group, I'm sure he scores 10+ tonight)
Points wise, these 2 would be borderline with the rest. With Kupp's injury, I think that just means a few more PPG for each of these 2
Cooks
Woods
These 2 are both out...
Sanders - I like him but I think there are WR in better situations
Evans - This QB carousel is going to bite him in the end
JuJu - He has to be 13th already. Dude's a stud. Ben is looking good lately. They roll to a division berth and have 2 WR in top 12
Diggs - if healthy he will help the Vikings also have 2 top 12 WR... Averaged more PPG than Evans in games he has played
Honorable mentions...
Boyd - he might need AJG to be his wingman... hes a top 15 guy for me, dont think he makes top 12
Kennan - not his year, in my opinion. Don't think he's a top 12 dynasty WR either.
Jarvis - Baker likes spreading the ball around. Not good for a former target hog / PPR monster
Thielen
M. Thomas
T. Hill
Adams
Hopkins
A Brown
Julio Jones
Beckham (he belongs in this group, I'm sure he scores 10+ tonight)
Points wise, these 2 would be borderline with the rest. With Kupp's injury, I think that just means a few more PPG for each of these 2
Cooks
Woods
These 2 are both out...
Sanders - I like him but I think there are WR in better situations
Evans - This QB carousel is going to bite him in the end
JuJu - He has to be 13th already. Dude's a stud. Ben is looking good lately. They roll to a division berth and have 2 WR in top 12
Diggs - if healthy he will help the Vikings also have 2 top 12 WR... Averaged more PPG than Evans in games he has played
Honorable mentions...
Boyd - he might need AJG to be his wingman... hes a top 15 guy for me, dont think he makes top 12
Kennan - not his year, in my opinion. Don't think he's a top 12 dynasty WR either.
Jarvis - Baker likes spreading the ball around. Not good for a former target hog / PPR monster
Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers
I think Sanders is definitely an interesting case - especially with Thomas gone now. Obviously we all expect Sutton to gain targets but Sanders has been Keenums favorite target all season and the demise of Kelly means Keenum doesnt have a serious threat for his job any more - so I think Sanders situation for 2019 at least is perhaps more favorable than we think. And if Keenum remains lead QB in 2020 - a big if of course - that could lead to a late career resurgence - ala Fitzgerald?
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers
Funny, I was going to say that Evans has two major duds in his last two that he has to bounce back from. Volume has been there too. I don't think he will drop out of the top 12.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers
4 weeks later lets update & see where we stand - and once again I am aware MNF has yet to play.
Players in Bold yet to play Week XIV
I round up or down the fractional scoring
Then:
D. Adams - 284
T. Hill - 278
M. Thomas - 272
A. Thielen - 271 - Yet to play Week XIV
Julio Jones - 268
Antonio Bown - 264
Hopkins / Smith-Schuster - 252
K. Allen - 239
Beckham - 233
Evans - 227
Woods - 216
Diggs - 209 - Yet to play Week XIV
Outside top 12 - yet to play Week XIV
Lockett - 175
Players in Bold yet to play Week XIV
I round up or down the fractional scoring
Then:
Now:
D. Adams - 284
T. Hill - 278
M. Thomas - 272
A. Thielen - 271 - Yet to play Week XIV
Julio Jones - 268
Antonio Bown - 264
Hopkins / Smith-Schuster - 252
K. Allen - 239
Beckham - 233
Evans - 227
Woods - 216
Diggs - 209 - Yet to play Week XIV
Outside top 12 - yet to play Week XIV
Lockett - 175
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
Why not just wait 12 hours until after the MNF game has been played to update?
Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
Or we could just look at it and see that there's probably a good chance Lockett isn't going to score 30 plus and realize this is the top 12Oddball456 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:56 am Why not just wait 12 hours until after the MNF game has been played to update?
Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
Unfortunately my work schedule on Tuesdays means the only large block of 'free' time I have I need to use to for my leagues waivers. I'll only update once more after the NFL season has completely finished.Oddball456 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 10:56 am Why not just wait 12 hours until after the MNF game has been played to update?
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
3 top 12 WRs on my team, and I still feel like benching Evans for Landry next week :/
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
I was surprised to see Brown only 20 pts from the #1 spot this year. He has been solid and has had his couple big games, but not many MONSTER games and his low games are lower than normal. It just shows the expectations he has brought to us somewhat spoiled us. He had a "down' week for his standards this week, so hopefully he comes through in the clutch the next couple.
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QB:Brady
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
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RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
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Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
Very TD-heavy, just like Adams. As a relatively new Brown owner, I'll definitely take the production, although his standard is obviously so high that I have been a tiny bit disappointed not to get more yardage to go along with those TDs.Friction wrote: ↑Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:46 pm I was surprised to see Brown only 20 pts from the #1 spot this year. He has been solid and has had his couple big games, but not many MONSTER games and his low games are lower than normal. It just shows the expectations he has brought to us somewhat spoiled us. He had a "down' week for his standards this week, so hopefully he comes through in the clutch the next couple.
Re: The Top 12 At Each Position - Wide Receivers - Updated
Final Update:
PPR Scoring*
1 - Hopkins - 337.5
2 - Julio Jones - 329.8
3 - T. Hill - 328.0
4 - D. Adams - 327.6
5 - A. Brown - 323.7
6 - M. Thomas - 319.5
7 - Thielen - 307.3
8 - Smith-Schuster - 296.9
9 - Evans - 292.4
10 - Woods - 265.6
11 - Diggs - 264.3
12 - Allen - 260.1
13 - Cooks - 243.2
14 - Hilton - 239.0
15 - Beckham - 233.4
16 - Boyd - 221.1
17 - Lockett - 220.4
18 - Cooper - 219.4
19 - Landry - 217.7
20 - Ridley - 208.8
21 - Edelman - 207.8
22 - Golladay - 207.1
23 - Sanders - 198.5
24 - Humphries - 188.7
25 - Jeffery - 185.3
26 - Godwin - 185.2
27 - Fitzgerald - 184
28 - C. Davis - 183.6
29 - Sanu - 182.4
30 - Tate - 180.9
31 - Shepard - 180.5
32 - M. Williams - 178.2
33 - Westbrook - 177.6
34 - Agholor - 165.55
35 - Z. Jones - 163.2
36 - DJ Moore - 163
* - may vary with your league due to scoring format
Receiving Yardage
1 - Julio Jones - 1676
2 - Hopkins - 1572
3 - Evans - 1524
4 - T. Hill - 1479
5 - Smith-Schuster - 1426
6 - M. Thomas - 1405
7 - Adams - 1386
8 - Thielen - 1373
9 - A. Brown - 1297
10 - Hilton - 1270
11 - Woods - 1219
12 - Cooks - 1204
13 - Allen - 1196
14 - Golladay - 1063
15 - Beckham - 1052
16 - Boyd - 1028
17 - Diggs - 1021
18 - Cooper - 1004
Receiving TDs
1 - A. Brown - 15
2 - Adams - 13
3 - T. Hill - 12
4 - Hopkins - 11
5 - Lockett - 10
6 - Ridley - 10
7 - M. Williams - 10
8 - Diggs - 9
9 - Thielen - 9
10 - M. Thomas - 9
11 - Evans - 8
12 - Julio Jones - 8
Receptions
1 - M. Thomas - 125
2 - Hopkins - 115
3 - Julio Jones - 113
4 - Thielen - 113
5 - Adams - 111
6 - Smith-Schuster - 111
7 - A. Brown - 104
8 - Diggs - 102
9 - Allen - 97
10 - T. Hill - 87
11 - Evans - 86
12 - Woods - 86
13 - Landry - 81
14 - Cooks - 80
15 - Beckham - 77
16 - Boyd - 76
17 - Hilton - 76
18 - Humphries - 76
19 - Cooper - 75
20 - Edelman - 74
21 - Tate - 74
22 - Sanders - 71
23 - Golladay - 70
24 - Fitzgerald - 69
Targets
1 - Julio Jones - 170
2 - Adams - 169
3 - A. Brown - 169
4 - Smith-Schuster - 166
5 - Hopkins - 163
6 - Thielen - 155
7 - Diggs - 148
8 - Landry - 148
9 - M. Thomas - 147
10 - Evans - 139
11 - Allen - 137
12 - T. Hill - 137
13 - Woods - 131
14 - Beckham - 124
15 - Hilton - 120
16 - Golladay - 118
17 - Cooks - 116
18 - Tate - 113
19 - C. Davis - 112
20 - Fitzgerald - 112
21 - Boyd - 108
22 - Cooper - 108
23 - Edelman - 108
24 - Shepard - 107
PPR Scoring*
1 - Hopkins - 337.5
2 - Julio Jones - 329.8
3 - T. Hill - 328.0
4 - D. Adams - 327.6
5 - A. Brown - 323.7
6 - M. Thomas - 319.5
7 - Thielen - 307.3
8 - Smith-Schuster - 296.9
9 - Evans - 292.4
10 - Woods - 265.6
11 - Diggs - 264.3
12 - Allen - 260.1
13 - Cooks - 243.2
14 - Hilton - 239.0
15 - Beckham - 233.4
16 - Boyd - 221.1
17 - Lockett - 220.4
18 - Cooper - 219.4
19 - Landry - 217.7
20 - Ridley - 208.8
21 - Edelman - 207.8
22 - Golladay - 207.1
23 - Sanders - 198.5
24 - Humphries - 188.7
25 - Jeffery - 185.3
26 - Godwin - 185.2
27 - Fitzgerald - 184
28 - C. Davis - 183.6
29 - Sanu - 182.4
30 - Tate - 180.9
31 - Shepard - 180.5
32 - M. Williams - 178.2
33 - Westbrook - 177.6
34 - Agholor - 165.55
35 - Z. Jones - 163.2
36 - DJ Moore - 163
* - may vary with your league due to scoring format
Receiving Yardage
1 - Julio Jones - 1676
2 - Hopkins - 1572
3 - Evans - 1524
4 - T. Hill - 1479
5 - Smith-Schuster - 1426
6 - M. Thomas - 1405
7 - Adams - 1386
8 - Thielen - 1373
9 - A. Brown - 1297
10 - Hilton - 1270
11 - Woods - 1219
12 - Cooks - 1204
13 - Allen - 1196
14 - Golladay - 1063
15 - Beckham - 1052
16 - Boyd - 1028
17 - Diggs - 1021
18 - Cooper - 1004
Receiving TDs
1 - A. Brown - 15
2 - Adams - 13
3 - T. Hill - 12
4 - Hopkins - 11
5 - Lockett - 10
6 - Ridley - 10
7 - M. Williams - 10
8 - Diggs - 9
9 - Thielen - 9
10 - M. Thomas - 9
11 - Evans - 8
12 - Julio Jones - 8
Receptions
1 - M. Thomas - 125
2 - Hopkins - 115
3 - Julio Jones - 113
4 - Thielen - 113
5 - Adams - 111
6 - Smith-Schuster - 111
7 - A. Brown - 104
8 - Diggs - 102
9 - Allen - 97
10 - T. Hill - 87
11 - Evans - 86
12 - Woods - 86
13 - Landry - 81
14 - Cooks - 80
15 - Beckham - 77
16 - Boyd - 76
17 - Hilton - 76
18 - Humphries - 76
19 - Cooper - 75
20 - Edelman - 74
21 - Tate - 74
22 - Sanders - 71
23 - Golladay - 70
24 - Fitzgerald - 69
Targets
1 - Julio Jones - 170
2 - Adams - 169
3 - A. Brown - 169
4 - Smith-Schuster - 166
5 - Hopkins - 163
6 - Thielen - 155
7 - Diggs - 148
8 - Landry - 148
9 - M. Thomas - 147
10 - Evans - 139
11 - Allen - 137
12 - T. Hill - 137
13 - Woods - 131
14 - Beckham - 124
15 - Hilton - 120
16 - Golladay - 118
17 - Cooks - 116
18 - Tate - 113
19 - C. Davis - 112
20 - Fitzgerald - 112
21 - Boyd - 108
22 - Cooper - 108
23 - Edelman - 108
24 - Shepard - 107
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