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Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby playa_hata » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:30 pm

just curious what you guys think of him. I have seen him play a few games and looks damn good to me. I would pay a 2nd rounder for him all day. What do the masses think of MVS? He looks like he could end up being adams 2.0 I posted this in trade advice which is where it belongs but I declined james white for my MVS thinking he has more long term upside. If you were drafting the rookie draft today where would you take him comparing him to other rookies ? im saying he would easily be an early 2nd. Thanks for reading!
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Postby Plank » Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:45 pm

Certainly a great sell, if you can get a good price, think most are hopeful he'll be W Fuller ... time will tell, but I would certainly package him up and go for something solid ..
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Postby Jigga94 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm

As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him

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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby playa_hata » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:35 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him
who would u rather have james white or mvs? mvs would be my borderline wr3 i have adams tyreek fitz balwin mvs anth miller trequan pettis. rbs are zeke cmc chubb ingram. just as an idea of his value.
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RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby playa_hata » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:35 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him
or would you pay a first for mvs if you knew ur 19 first was going to be late.
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WR: Davante Adams, Tyreek, Fuller, Aj Brown, AB, MVS, Fulgham, Ward, Fitz, Beasley, amendola, zaccheus
TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby Jigga94 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:36 pm

If you were competing and needed RB I'd go White. But MVS has way more long term value and you need WR more. And yes I'd pay a late 1st

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Postby Rosenbluu » Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:39 pm

Plank wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:45 pm Certainly a great sell, if you can get a good price, think most are hopeful he'll be W Fuller ... time will tell, but I would certainly package him up and go for something solid ..
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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby playa_hata » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:03 pm

Rosenbluu wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:39 pm
Plank wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:45 pm Certainly a great sell, if you can get a good price, think most are hopeful he'll be W Fuller ... time will tell, but I would certainly package him up and go for something solid ..
I like this idea
who would u try and target if you packaged say him and another young wr like trequan or anthony miller. what would be a realistic return? would be looking for a wr back
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RB: Zeke, CMC, Jacobs, Chubb, Gore, Dearnest
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TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 pm

Jigga94 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him
Seems a little optimistic. Draft capital isn't there and quite a few GB receivers have come and gone. MVS is promising, but there's no way I put him near the top '18 receivers.

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Postby hoos89 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him
Seems a little optimistic. Draft capital isn't there and quite a few GB receivers have come and gone. MVS is promising, but there's no way I put him near the top '18 receivers.
I think he's in the top 5 right now. Would need to have a really good end to the year to be considered anywhere near Sutton, Ridley or Moore's values, though.
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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:37 pm

hoos89 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him
Seems a little optimistic. Draft capital isn't there and quite a few GB receivers have come and gone. MVS is promising, but there's no way I put him near the top '18 receivers.
I think he's in the top 5 right now. Wold need to have a really good end to the year to be considered anywhere near Sutton, Ridley or Moore's values.
Agreed

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Postby playa_hata » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:09 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:37 pm
hoos89 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 pm

Seems a little optimistic. Draft capital isn't there and quite a few GB receivers have come and gone. MVS is promising, but there's no way I put him near the top '18 receivers.
I think he's in the top 5 right now. Wold need to have a really good end to the year to be considered anywhere near Sutton, Ridley or Moore's values.
Agreed
a buddy of mine just told me he would pay a late first for him. would you sell for that ?
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TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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QB: Rodgers, Baker, Stafford, Bridgewater
RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby dynastyninja » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:14 pm

playa_hata wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:09 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:37 pm
hoos89 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 pm

I think he's in the top 5 right now. Wold need to have a really good end to the year to be considered anywhere near Sutton, Ridley or Moore's values.
Agreed
a buddy of mine just told me he would pay a late first for him. would you sell for that ?
Absolutely, that's cashing out for a profit in my mind. MVS could be worth more down the line, but you're locking in value with that move.

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Postby Bot101 » Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:18 pm

MVS value you ask: giggidy

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Re: Marquez Valdes Scantling value going forward ?

Postby Jigga94 » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:50 am

hoos89 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:36 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:21 pm
Jigga94 wrote: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:22 pm As far as the 2018 Rookie WR go... I have a feeling he will be the highest valued going into 2019. Ridley or Sutton will be right there with him
Seems a little optimistic. Draft capital isn't there and quite a few GB receivers have come and gone. MVS is promising, but there's no way I put him near the top '18 receivers.
I think he's in the top 5 right now. Would need to have a really good end to the year to be considered anywhere near Sutton, Ridley or Moore's values, though.
Easily top 5 right now, right after those 3. Forget about draft capital for a second because the number of successful 1st round WR has been surprisingly bad lately.

What has been his knock besides that then? The fact that he was anywhere from #4-6 on the depth chart. Same knock Adams had at one point...

Now you're looking at him as at least the 3 in an Aaron Rodgers offense for ROS. So hes surpassed the other rookies, has a promising starting job this year (I'd rather start him than Moore, Sutton or Ridley in redraft leagues), probably next year too with Cobb and Allison both possibly out. On top of all that is a freak athlete catching passes from a top QB

When situation and draft capital is his only knock and hes overcome those things, you have to start looking at his potential to produce. GB WR are pretty good at that.

Sutton cant get separation
Moore is on an offense that never features WR
Ridley is playing pretty damn well along Julio even though people said there wouldnt be enough to go around.

It will be interesting to say the least. Or maybe ESB and JMon both pass him this week and I look like an idiot... who knows?


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