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What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby kris_kapsner » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:27 pm

Week after week we see superstar written all over the 3 or less carries that Nick Chubb receives and we see pedestrian runs at best from Hyde.

This week’s example:
Hyde 14 rushes for 34 yards
Chubb 3 rushes for 24

At what point do you think the Browns wake up and hand the keys to the backfield to Chubb?
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby kris_kapsner » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:42 pm

Chubb has averaged 7+ yards per carry in 4 out of 6 games while Hyde has rushed for 4+ yards per carry just once...and less than 3 yards per carry in half his games.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby kris_kapsner » Mon Oct 15, 2018 12:49 pm

From Rotoworld.

Speaking Monday, Browns coach Hue Jackson once again claimed he would work to get Nick Chubb more carries.
Analysis: "We do need to get Nick Chubb more carries," was Jackson's exact quote. He said the same thing two weeks away and has proceeded to give Chubb the ball six times over the past two games. With Carlos Hyde averaging just 3.35 yards per carry, perhaps Jackson means it this time.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby Vcize » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:47 pm

When they get a new coach or when Hyde gets injured.

If Tyrod hadn't gotten hurt, Baker would still be sitting on the bench too.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:58 pm

Yeah this is nothing compared to the ignorant incompetent mess that is Mike McCarthy's retainment of Aaron Jones.

Glad my team completely owned on Sunday without having to start Jones tonight. I'd become infuriated with his lack of usage. All that kid does, is pick up chunks of yardage and then ride the bench on the next drive.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 pm

TheRookiePro wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 2:58 pm Yeah this is nothing compared to the ignorant incompetent mess that is Mike McCarthy's retainment of Aaron Jones.

Glad my team completely owned on Sunday without having to start Jones tonight. I'd become infuriated with his lack of usage. All that kid does, is pick up chunks of yardage and then ride the bench on the next drive.
It's because he doesn't do anything well when he doesn't have the ball. That's the reality. Missing assignments, not pass protecting well etc. will do that.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:19 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 pm It's because he doesn't do anything well when he doesn't have the ball. That's the reality. Missing assignments, not pass protecting well etc. will do that.
I haven't seen enough Packers game to say you're wrong. However, it can't be that bad if Rodgers is going so far as to lobby to the media about Jones getting more snaps.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby Goddard » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:37 pm

Is Marvin Lewis coaching this team?

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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby Mefisto » Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:49 pm

I'd argue it's the smart long term move for the team. They know he can run. He needs to learn how to block and the best place for that is practice, not during a game risking your franchise QBs future. Tyrod and Hyde were supposed to take the beating this year and get another top half pick. Fire Hue, get a Nagy or McVay-like offensive coach and then next year they start to compete for the playoffs. Save chubb for when it will matter.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:01 pm

Only logical explanation is that they're still trying to legally tank for 1 more high draft pick
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:03 pm

TheRookiePro wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:19 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 15, 2018 3:04 pm It's because he doesn't do anything well when he doesn't have the ball. That's the reality. Missing assignments, not pass protecting well etc. will do that.
I haven't seen enough Packers game to say you're wrong. However, it can't be that bad if Rodgers is going so far as to lobby to the media about Jones getting more snaps.
No, for sure. From what I have seen, the coaching staff is much more comfortable with Jamaal's off the ball skills, but if Rodgers did that, maybe he'll see some more time.
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby TheRookiePro » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:14 pm

@FantasyFreak
Here's the quote from Rodgers that I was referring to:
"When you bring 33 back on the field like we did last week, you kind of forget the type of dynamic abilities he can bring to a game with his running style, Rodgers said. "He's a different type of runner than we've had here in a while. You've gotta find ways to get him the ball."
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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby Phaded » Mon Oct 15, 2018 4:44 pm

lol This is hilarious when some fantasy owners act like they are the greatest personnel evaluators.

Hyde is not bad - and there is way more to being a running back than how a running back looks as a change of pace back.

Chubb has a lot to learn. When a player cannot even pick up his special teams blocks you are not gonna put him next to Baker.

Where were you last week when he had 2 yards?
Oh right, that would be inconvenient to your argument.

The fact that you use YPC to back your arguments when it is off a 3 carry game is hilariously inept. Two words. Antone Smith.

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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby jordanzs » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:10 pm

Coaches should be required to play fantasy football & tune in to fantasy football forums. If I was an NFL franchise owner, I would make that a prerequisite of taking the job....

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Re: What’s it going to take for blind Browns to see?

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Oct 15, 2018 5:33 pm

I think it's a mistake to analyze Chubb's 16 carries in 6 games and conclude that he'll be a better RB for them. It's a lot easier to come in the game as a change-of-pace and get off a few big runs.


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