RB Values Currently Being Killed By Coaches

[Phaded]

I agree with David Johnson - but other than that there have been some fair reasons.

[btv802]

I'm still stubbornly believing there's talent in Samaje Perine, but he's not even getting a sniff from his coaches. They really have never liked him, only playing him when forced to due to multiple injuries. His rookie year, his ypc wasn't good, but no one's was on that team and everyone knows the blocking was atrocious. I thought he looked pretty good with the opportunity he got. He hasn't even been active yet this year...and somehow I think even if Peterson tore his ACL, the Redskins would go get someone else's practice squad player like Tra Carson or something instead of activating Perine. I just don't get it.

I'm with you on this one. Big frustration for me.

[Lotto4Life]

All the running backs on my roster. Their coach hates them.

[ninotoreS]

They do it quite often in this day and age and the way the NFL plays offense now.

Then you should be able to give me plenty of examples.

Who didn't think Melvin was going to be a 20 touch guy?

You missed my point. Gordon had even lower BMI than Johnson coming out. He was just 215lbs at 6'1", still is, maybe, for all I know.

The point is one can't say KJ isn't built for 20 touches and then be copacetic about a profile like Gordon's. Without being hypocritical, I mean.

I'm sure they are quite happy with KJ's production, and would love a power back to compliment him.

KJ is a power-back.

Gio had a really good rookie year and they then drafted Hill in the 2nd the next year.

Ah, there's an example. Cincy didn't trade up for Gio, iirc, but close enough.

In hindsight, looking at what he's done with Cleveland's backfield, that was just Hue Jackson being Hue Jackson, though, wasting draft capital and money on RB mismanagement.

Regardless, Gio actually does profile as a committee-back. You ever see him push a pile, bulldoze a squared up tackler at the goal-line or on X-and-short?

workhorse backs

20 touches can be achieved without 20 carries. And KJ's metrics have an elite profile for pass-catching at the position, which the tape confirms.

I don't think TB ever thought Ronald Jones was going to be a bell cow back

Considering they immediately gave him passing down and third-down reps at OTAs (he just flopped with them, ofc) along with his expected early-down role, I think you're wrong about that.

I just don't think KJ is being "held back"

Dude, every non-fantasy football person is saying it, too.

It's an obvious take when one sees an RB representing significant draft capital that's visibly excelling in every situation, on every down, and on nearly every touch, and is drastically outperforming the other RBs on the chart with just 30% or so of the snap-share.

Detroit's offense is plainly less effective with Blount getting carries, and there's nothing he does that KJ can't do. How else is 'being held back' rationally qualified than in a scenario exactly like this? Aside from seeing KJ being physically restrained on the sideline.

maybe they want him fresh for the playoffs

The Lions are 2-3.

[ColdZealDonkeyStrike]

Every RB on my team that's either on a bad offense or is not a bellcow is being held back by NFL coaches.

[Cameron Giles]

Is Kerryon really being "killed" though? His touches by game:

Week 1: 8
Week 2: 13
Week 3: 19
Week 4: 10
Week 5: 14

I think the goal line usage is valid when Blount vultures, but overall that's not bad usage for a rookie RB in a committee.

[Forza_Azzurri]

My vote is for Mixon ... he's currently RB9 based on weekly average. If Lazor & Marvin game planned to get him involved early on in the passing game he'd be Top 5 easy.

[_yeti]

Every RB on my team that's either on a bad offense or is not a bellcow is being held back by NFL coaches.

Nailed it. 'Cry me a river' thread. As an aside, Samuels is a talented jack-of-all-trades athlete, but he is not an NFL running back.

The true RB for this thread is Leveon in his second season where they ran him for like 1400 yards but didnt let him score for like ten weeks and kept giving the ball to Blount so he could get stuffed and passed all the time on the goal line with Ben. Wait, maybe it is Kerryon haha

[koalabear]

Duke Johnson - lot of talent. Not a lot of usage.

Alex Collins - Some of his woes are self inflicted but his usage is infuriating.

[dmac37]

This year seems to be worse than ever in regards to everyone seeing talented RB's sitting, while inferior RB's are getting more run from their coaching staff. We are all guilty of getting upset when our RB's get vultured at the goal line or don't get enough involvement in the pass game but this year seems crazy with so many teams giving so much playing time to RB's that everyone sees as being inferior in talent and production.

How do you see the values going for this group of RB's that the fantasy community seems to value more than their coaching staff. Which ones will the coaches finally roll with the talent and start seeing what we are all seeing?

Obvious Group:
K. Johnson- seems like the most obvious choice that needs to take over his own backfield
A. Jones - if Rodgers continues to endorse him and he improves slightly in pass blocking, he should separate
Collins- with Allen being a total JAG and also fumbling in the last game + Collins yards per run and catch being so far superior to Allen, I would think the coaches have to increase his work load if they want the offense to move
Drake- not a guy I pay much attention to

Rookie RB's looking for a chance:
Penny- may take the most patience and seems to be boom or bust
R. Jones- not really a believer but he looks to be getting a real chance starting now
Chubb- one of the few on this list that currently has a legitimate talent ahead off them. A sure bet to eventually hit as a 2 down back but will take patience
Guice(injury)- should hit the ground running in 2019 and a great trade target if current owner is in 2018 panic mode and needs to move him for immediate value

Well it looks like many from this list are now finally getting the love from their coaches that most of us were able to see long ago

K. Johnson- seems like the most obvious choice that needs to take over his own backfield- now the man
A. Jones - if Rodgers continues to endorse him and he improves slightly in pass blocking, he should separate- stud in the making
Collins- with Allen being a total JAG and also fumbling in the last game + Collins yards per run and catch being so far superior to Allen, I would think the coaches have to increase his work load if they want the offense to move- can Collins please be given the chance to join this group. Same as A. Jones situation with Jamawful Williams, Buck Allen has no right to be getting close to the same workload as Collins
Drake- not a guy I pay much attention to- still not sure about this situation

Rookie RB's looking for a chance:
Penny- may take the most patience and seems to be boom or bust- at least Carson has also looked good but Penny seems to be the future for Seattle
R. Jones- not really a believer but he looks to be getting a real chance starting now- could be a good buy low
Chubb- one of the few on this list that currently has a legitimate talent ahead off them. A sure bet to eventually hit as a 2 down back but will take patience- another stud in the making
Guice(injury)- should hit the ground running in 2019 and a great trade target if current owner is in 2018 panic mode and needs to move him for immediate value- still think he will be a top 12 RB moving forward

[ArrylT]

Good job on getting the NFL Coaches to read your post.

[Gtdano_14]

Hopefully Collins can run with the job. Traded A. Jones for him (and a 4th) 2 months ago... definitely didn’t see Montgomery leaving the equation that fast.

[FantasyFreak]

Penny.

[Rosenbluu]

Penny.

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[Jigga94]

Penny.

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