Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby FantasyFreak » Tue Oct 09, 2018 11:31 pm

Ryantacular wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:24 am
FantasyFreak wrote:
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Derek Carr doesn't eat cereal, he gets enough milk through milking that big fat contract of his.
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Oh agreed - the probability is he will remain a Raider next year barring a nice trade offer. Beyond 2019, I am not so sure.
Damn, well atleast by then he'll be 26(?)ish and on a new team hopefully, because I can't see him ever becoming consistent with Carr at the helm
Agreed. Carr is currently cancer for him, can't even see any type of developmental progress. And is that an RS avatar? lmao. YES!
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Glad the genius came down from the tv booth to get the Raiders turned around.Also his " Commitment to Excellence" is only exceeded by his commitment to get the ball in Amari's hands. Even Nick Saban didn't freeze out Cooper's talent as Bad as this Oakland offense.It appears that the Black Hole has swallowed up whatever force that Amari's immense hype generated. Please, give this turd a courtesy flush :oops:
To be fair to Gruden, Cooper was trash last year and Gruden wasn't involved at all.
Cooper and Carr aside, Gruden has been not living up to how much he hyped himself up when he was on TV. I don't think he can go back to announcing after this embarrassment of a coaching gig unless he starts producing results can he??
The reality is, Gruden completely deconstructed this roster and is building it for Vegas. This is a tank year. Also, Carr has well over 300 yards per game, and a 72 percent completion percentage, but has 3 end zone INT's. That 7-8 TD/INT could easily be 10-5, but as Gruden said, Carr presses at these moments, (knowing how bad the D is). Not excusing it, but considering it's 5 games into a new system, I'm giving both of them the balance of 2 years before I pass a real judgment, but I am not happy with Carr trending towards being a complete bonehead when it matters most. Yikes. LOL.
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby ArrylT » Wed Oct 10, 2018 5:22 am

cazzie33 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:52 pm
thebeast wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:24 pm
cazzie33 wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:23 pm
Glad the genius came down from the tv booth to get the Raiders turned around.Also his " Commitment to Excellence" is only exceeded by his commitment to get the ball in Amari's hands. Even Nick Saban didn't freeze out Cooper's talent as Bad as this Oakland offense.It appears that the Black Hole has swallowed up whatever force that Amari's immense hype generated. Please, give this turd a courtesy flush :oops:
To be fair to Gruden, Cooper was trash last year and Gruden wasn't involved at all.
True but it was Chuckie's own words & false promises that he would move him around the formations & do whatever it takes to get the ball in Cooper's hands. So like most cases so far Gruden's been a huge disappointment. Of course his greatest success will probably become his ability to get Reggie fired as GM for the team's abysmal performance which of course will be blamed on the lack of talent on the roster ...That Chuckie's decision(s) like letting Khalil go had plenty to do with.

Gruden's going to blow it up and build it in his own image so he can get all the credit. When that fails it will be interesting to see how that gets spun.
Sounds like something turcorox would say. ;)
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby IBall2 » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:32 am

So, do we think Cooper can turn it around this season? Or is this an avoid situation? I need help at WR so I've been thinking about offering up a decent chunk for Cooper but I'm not sure if he's going to be helpful or hurtful. At the end of the season, will he be in the WR20-25 range or will it be closer to WR30-35?

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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby JoshGordonsDealer » Wed Oct 10, 2018 8:06 am

IBall2 wrote:
Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:32 am
So, do we think Cooper can turn it around this season? Or is this an avoid situation? I need help at WR so I've been thinking about offering up a decent chunk for Cooper but I'm not sure if he's going to be helpful or hurtful. At the end of the season, will he be in the WR20-25 range or will it be closer to WR30-35?
I expect it's in the range you didn't list... somewhere between 25-30.

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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby Phaded » Wed Oct 10, 2018 9:24 am

I would guess WR30 or worse.

Cooper is not a target if you need help now. Lots of better options for cheaper.
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby ArrylT » Wed Oct 10, 2018 3:02 pm

Well if on odd numbered weeks he averages 20 yards and on even numbered weeks he averages 100 then he'll still finish with close to 1000 yards.

8x20 = 160
8x100 = 800
800+160 = 960

As for receptions that would be

8x2 = 16
8x8 = 64

so 80-960-4 perhaps

Thats 200 points in normal PPR I believe

Which I believe could be high end WR3 in this high WR production year - so WR30 by Phaded seems correct. :)
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby FantasyFreak » Wed Oct 10, 2018 7:40 pm

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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby ArrylT » Thu Oct 11, 2018 6:50 am

So what I took from that video - thanks for sharing - is that it is a perfect storm of events? IE Carr missing Cooper either in his reads or actually missing on a throw, Cooper being strongly defended, bad play-calling and QB struggles. At least according to the interpretation of the the person critiquing the film ...
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:33 am

ArrylT wrote:
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So what I took from that video - thanks for sharing - is that it is a perfect storm of events? IE Carr missing Cooper either in his reads or actually missing on a throw, Cooper being strongly defended, bad play-calling and QB struggles. At least according to the interpretation of the the person critiquing the film ...
Yeah, one of the observations that I definitely agree with is that Carr is checking down even when the throw is there to Cooper. This has been happening since he broke his leg.
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby Phaded » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:38 am

Carr is not helping the situation and is acting scared to get hit with all the checkdown.

But Cooper has not really done anything to inspire trust.

Cooper is not solely to blame but neither is Carr.
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby FantasyFreak » Thu Oct 11, 2018 7:49 am

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Carr is not helping the situation and is acting scared to get hit with all the checkdown.

But Cooper has not really done anything to inspire trust.

Cooper is not solely to blame but neither is Carr.
I would say Carr is to blame in games where he is open 6 or 7 times but gets 1 target. It's not just Cooper, either. It's guys on the outside in general. Carr has taken to checking down since his injury happened much more, he bails on the play to his check down even when there is no real pressure all too often. Cooper has his faults, but in general, Carr is not allowing plays to the WR to develop, and unless he corrects this he will never be that guy we saw in 2016 again.
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby Oddball456 » Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:39 am

Rumor now is the Cooper is on the trade block. Not sure of what team besides maybe the Cowboys would be obvious, but can you imagine if he somehow ended up on the Packers with their WR injuries and Cobb getting older?

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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby Valhalla » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:27 pm

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Rumor now is the Cooper is on the trade block. Not sure of what team besides maybe the Cowboys would be obvious, but can you imagine if he somehow ended up on the Packers with their WR injuries and Cobb getting older?
So which team is going to get out their Cooper Scooper and get him off the grass?

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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:48 pm

Valhalla wrote:
Sun Oct 14, 2018 8:27 pm
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Sun Oct 14, 2018 9:39 am
Rumor now is the Cooper is on the trade block. Not sure of what team besides maybe the Cowboys would be obvious, but can you imagine if he somehow ended up on the Packers with their WR injuries and Cobb getting older?
So which team is going to get out their Cooper Scooper and get him off the grass?
Please not Buffalo. How about GB?
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Re: Cooper Urinated in Derek Carrs Cereal and Got Caught

Postby Ryantacular » Wed Oct 17, 2018 4:12 pm

Thanks for sharing this. Has some interesting insight.

Also, Phaded, I agree, neither are to blame soley.

The impending trading of cooper is interesting for sure though.
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