Aaron Jones...sell??
Re: Aaron Jones
Still like Jones although I do also worry that he may be more athlete and less RB. Just one of those nagging doubts that hasn't been dismissed by his play (yet).
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Re: Aaron Jones
Packers could use a little more athlete at RB right now. Williams running into as many teammates as Bears thus far.
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Re: Aaron Jones
Jamaal Williams will never have Rodgers as his QB.
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Re: Aaron Jones
worked out exactly how i thought it would.
williams has a pedistrian 3.4 ypc so far this season. isn't that what he averaged last season as well? that is who he is.
time for jones to swoop in and run like an actual big play rb.
williams has a pedistrian 3.4 ypc so far this season. isn't that what he averaged last season as well? that is who he is.
time for jones to swoop in and run like an actual big play rb.
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As an owner of Jones and Collins I must say, I'm getting a little nervous that the Packers love and use for Williams will be just like the Raven infatuation for the ultimate JAG- Buck Allen.
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Re: Aaron Jones
Speaking Monday, Packers coach Mike McCarthy said he would "love" to get Aaron Jones more work but that "there's more to the position than just running the football."
"He's dynamic with the ball in his hands," McCarthy said. "But there's more to the position than just running the football. We have diversity in our attack with three guys. All have excellent attributes." The fantasy community continues to be more in love with Jones than his coaching staff is. Jones has run circles around Jamaal Williams the past two season, but McCarthy is obsessed with Williams' "little things" skills. Per Pro Football Focus, Jones has been called on to pass block on just four of his 68 snaps. Jones' usage limits him to FLEX status for the time being, though the Niners are an appealing Week 6 matchup.
Matches up with what we're seeing on the field and we've been saying all along. Jones is not as good at pass protection and other little things that Aaron Rodgers requires for his offense.
For all those calling for more Aaron Jones and cursing McCarthy, this is why.
"He's dynamic with the ball in his hands," McCarthy said. "But there's more to the position than just running the football. We have diversity in our attack with three guys. All have excellent attributes." The fantasy community continues to be more in love with Jones than his coaching staff is. Jones has run circles around Jamaal Williams the past two season, but McCarthy is obsessed with Williams' "little things" skills. Per Pro Football Focus, Jones has been called on to pass block on just four of his 68 snaps. Jones' usage limits him to FLEX status for the time being, though the Niners are an appealing Week 6 matchup.
Matches up with what we're seeing on the field and we've been saying all along. Jones is not as good at pass protection and other little things that Aaron Rodgers requires for his offense.
For all those calling for more Aaron Jones and cursing McCarthy, this is why.
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Re: Aaron Jones
He'd be great on another team. One that doesn't give Williams and TY his carries. Oh well, not much is changing for nowPac_Eddy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 12:27 pm Speaking Monday, Packers coach Mike McCarthy said he would "love" to get Aaron Jones more work but that "there's more to the position than just running the football."
"He's dynamic with the ball in his hands," McCarthy said. "But there's more to the position than just running the football. We have diversity in our attack with three guys. All have excellent attributes." The fantasy community continues to be more in love with Jones than his coaching staff is. Jones has run circles around Jamaal Williams the past two season, but McCarthy is obsessed with Williams' "little things" skills. Per Pro Football Focus, Jones has been called on to pass block on just four of his 68 snaps. Jones' usage limits him to FLEX status for the time being, though the Niners are an appealing Week 6 matchup.
Matches up with what we're seeing on the field and we've been saying all along. Jones is not as good at pass protection and other little things that Aaron Rodgers requires for his offense.
For all those calling for more Aaron Jones and cursing McCarthy, this is why.
Re: Aaron Jones
Once again - those comments back up the thought process that he is a good runner but not a good running back.
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Re: Aaron Jones
Hopefully you sold.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 4:08 pmKind of like the time to sell Ajayi being now, right......right?Cameron Giles wrote: ↑Sat Sep 08, 2018 10:39 am GB has a backfield of replacement level talent. An injury to anyone will probably make them fall out of favor (as Jones and Montgomery did last season). Wouldn't be surprised if Williams did not finish the season as the starting RB.
I still think the time to sell Jones was last year. So, if you missed that window...good luck to you.
Re: Aaron Jones
I don't see why he can't learn these things. Plenty of backs do.
Maybe he just needs more time, though it is already year 2.
Maybe he just needs more time, though it is already year 2.
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Re: Aaron Jones
What are these "little things" that I keep hearing, the pass blocking is one which we all know and Williams is far superior at this.
I'm just unsure of what else you need your runningback to do outside of block and run, obviously untill Jones improves his blocking he will be used sparingly.
I'm just unsure of what else you need your runningback to do outside of block and run, obviously untill Jones improves his blocking he will be used sparingly.
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I don't have any sources, but this feels like a guy that doesn't practice well, skips or sleeps in team meetings, that sort of thing. Add that to Williams better pass blocking and doing those team things better, and McCarthy plays Williams despite not having the speed and explosiveness.AussieMate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:58 pm What are these "little things" that I keep hearing, the pass blocking is one which we all know and Williams is far superior at this.
I'm just unsure of what else you need your runningback to do outside of block and run, obviously untill Jones improves his blocking he will be used sparingly.
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Sweet thanks, I was trying to make sense of it all and the training aspect of it adds more depth to the little things comment that I hadn't thought of.Pac_Eddy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:13 pmI don't have any sources, but this feels like a guy that doesn't practice well, skips or sleeps in team meetings, that sort of thing. Add that to Williams better pass blocking and doing those team things better, and McCarthy plays Williams despite not having the speed and explosiveness.AussieMate wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 4:58 pm What are these "little things" that I keep hearing, the pass blocking is one which we all know and Williams is far superior at this.
I'm just unsure of what else you need your runningback to do outside of block and run, obviously untill Jones improves his blocking he will be used sparingly.
In my mind I could only think of all the runningback criterias like agility, burst, vision, block etc and couldn't think of anything Williams does better besides block.
Potential Jones may not know all the plays well enough because of laziness at training etc.
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Not to burst the "Jones can't pass block narative"...actually, let's burst that bleep. Hoping someone can confirm or dismiss this.
Brad Evans
Before the "But Jamaal Williams is a Hall of Fame pass blocker" zealots emerge, here is what Aaron Jones has scored in pass-blocking efficiency on 42 pass snaps this year:
100.0
This is McCarthy being bullheaded. Period. End of story.
Fun Fact of the Day:
Jamaal Williams has forced ONE missed tackle on 60 touches.
Aaron Jones has forced 11 missed tackles on 28 touches.
I'm no walking, talking genius, but Mike McCarthy is in serious need of a brain transplant. As the world of coaching morons turns ...
Brad Evans
Before the "But Jamaal Williams is a Hall of Fame pass blocker" zealots emerge, here is what Aaron Jones has scored in pass-blocking efficiency on 42 pass snaps this year:
100.0
This is McCarthy being bullheaded. Period. End of story.
Fun Fact of the Day:
Jamaal Williams has forced ONE missed tackle on 60 touches.
Aaron Jones has forced 11 missed tackles on 28 touches.
I'm no walking, talking genius, but Mike McCarthy is in serious need of a brain transplant. As the world of coaching morons turns ...
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Wow, this really is McCarthy not wanting to give him more snaps, for whatever whack reason then. Even Rodgers wants him out there more. Very strange indeed. Maybe McCarthy's a Pats/Eagles heavy RB rotation guy after all, talent be-damned.saw061600 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:33 pm Not to burst the "Jones can't pass block narative"...actually, let's burst that bleep. Hoping someone can confirm or dismiss this.
Brad Evans
Before the "But Jamaal Williams is a Hall of Fame pass blocker" zealots emerge, here is what Aaron Jones has scored in pass-blocking efficiency on 42 pass snaps this year:
100.0
This is McCarthy being bullheaded. Period. End of story.
Fun Fact of the Day:
Jamaal Williams has forced ONE missed tackle on 60 touches.
Aaron Jones has forced 11 missed tackles on 28 touches.
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