Ajayi last night (week 1)?

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Ice » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:51 am

CharlieKelly wrote:
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SELL. You have an extra half-week to find a buyer. His knee injuries will never go away. They'll only increase over time.
I tend to agree with selling him.

He still hits the hole hard north/south very well but I doubt he gets more than 50-54% of the touches at RB. Looks to be a complete non factor in the passing game.

That offense overall was not good. Looked very predictable. The Eagles Defense carried them stopping the Falcons twice on goal to goal situations. While he worked out last 6.2 points without the TD's is not good. He will have many games I suspect with zero TD's.
People have been calling to sell him because of the knee stuff since he was drafted. Reality is that it probably wont heavily affect him until he's retired.

Also neither offense looked good because the whole field was wet and passes were getting dropped left and right. Oh and the Eagles were missing two of their most important skill position players (Wentz and Alshon).
My comments have more to do with touches, not his knee. I do not see him as a high volume type player. While effective in bursts, he is a complete non factor in the passing game. He will be lucky to get 25 receptions. (Don't think he has ever had 30 receptions in a season so I don't own him)

My take is this looks like a 3 back system offense which, if true, will mean inconsistency over a 16 game fantasy season
. That said, he is a quality runner of the football between the tackles. With that line he should still hit 4+ YPC on average.

So many owners live in the moment, he could fetch an overpay today for his services.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby grooner » Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:57 am

I think they were trying to rest Ajayi as much as they could. Then at halftime they realized that Foles wasn't going to get it done, and had to use Ajayi more than they wanted.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby 0LDMAN » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:36 am

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I think they were trying to rest Ajayi as much as they could. Then at halftime they realized that Foles wasn't going to get it done, and had to use Ajayi more than they wanted.
Pretty much. Actually thought both clement and sproles looked like sh1t. Sproles dropped a few catchable balls and Clement looked awful outside of his one 20 yard run through the biggest hole of the night. If Ajayi is getting the goal-line work and 15-20 touches per week I'm pretty happy with that. Should be worth RB10-15 at that pace.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby trc » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:44 am

Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote:
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when wentz comes back this guy is gonna explode. there will be plenty more room for him to run.
Think Alshon returning will have a bigger impact. Foles last game was winning SB throwing a ton.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby thebeast » Fri Sep 07, 2018 9:50 am

Total sell high, if you can find a buyer.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Valhalla » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:06 am

The Blount role...after week 1.

I remember when the EXACT same thing was said of Gillislee after his 3TD opener. He had “secured the Blount role.”

Addition: didn’t he end up on a milk carton?

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby WhatWouldDitkaDo » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:12 am

Phaded wrote:
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I expect them to continue to use him sparingly due to health reasons.
He will be reliant on TDs and inevitably frustrate his fantasy owners.
x2 PHI showed last night that the predictions about them using a RBBC are 100% accurate. I'd project Ajayi to be a TD-dependent boom-or-bust RB3/flex every week. I'd sell high ASAP if you can find an owner that believes Ajayi will finish the season as a fantasy RB1.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby TheRookiePro » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:41 am

sloth8u wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 8:13 am
we shouuld put the knee issue to rest. we all know about it! adjust your opinion accordingly.

he has little mileage on the tires imo. he's been in the league 3 years and touched the ball roughly 500 times. any players knee could go out...it is what it is.
No we shouldn't. Not when most of our opinions are predicated on the fact that his future is lessened by the health of his knees. And having a nonchalant attitude about it isn't wise either. Yes it's football and everyone's health is at risk but we're talking about the RB position where the average career is drastically shorter than other positions.

Bottom line: Miami and now Philadelphia have both treated him with kid gloves in practice. He is a runner that needs a high volume of carries to wear down a defense. However, coaches will never rely upon a player who can't even make it through a week of full practice. Sell him now while his stock is high. You will regret it if you don't.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Krypto_King » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:59 am

he looked ok. ran hard. didn't break anything or have much opportunity to. betters news is clement looked really bad. sproles was blanketed pretty well. Falcons had a really good game plan and Foles did nothing to keep them from sitting on 5 yard routes all game.

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby lukkynumber13 » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:00 pm

Kurt G.O.A.T. wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 5:39 am
he looked great. never lost a yard even when surrounded by d players, many times making 5 yards out of nothing except power and will.
Absolutely.

It was so freaking clear the moment he got his first carry, that he possesses skills no other Philly back has. He’s a monster.

He lacks polish & sometimes vision, and he’s average at best as a pass catcher, but when he’s on the field, he’s a poor man’s AP.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby CharlieKelly » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:13 pm

https://twitter.com/Rotoworld_FB/status ... 3259891717

It's pretty clear that he was brought along slowly because of the foot injury he's been dealing with. He had 12 carries in the second half alone. I don't blame someone for trying to sell high but he's in line to be a high end RB2 with weekly RB1 upside. Why are ya'll so eager to drop multiple firsts for Jordan Howard but want to sell Ajayi for a late 1st?

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby TheRookiePro » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:32 pm

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Why are ya'll so eager to drop multiple firsts for Jordan Howard but want to sell Ajayi for a late 1st?
Think we're beating a dead horse now. If you believe in him keep him. But I'm going to bring it up when it goes south on you. And oh yeah, speaking of which, you still haven't mentioned WR2 Willie Snead. Do you still own him CharlieKelly?
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Snead seems to be really underrated and seems possible he's on his way to WR2 status with Cooks out of the picture.
WR2!? That's a bit ambitious. Just because Cooks is gone, it doesn't mean Snead is going to take advantage of those missing targets. He has good hands and runs nice routes. But he's too slow and undersized, a good third receiving option for the Saints, an ok one for a fantasy team.

Brees had the second most passing attempts--673, the most in his career--last season, he had a great year for fantasy but the Saints went 7-9 for a third consecutive time. They are too one-dimensional behind a 38 year old QB. They added A.Peterson and Kamara for a reason. They want fresh legs behind Ingram in order to chew up the clock and lessen the time their defense--which gave up the third most points a game last season(28.3)--is on the field.

P.S. 5/7 of their victories were one score games.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby Vcize » Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:32 pm

The bad:
-Sproles was a big part of the offense
-Sproles was practically a workhorse in the 1st half
-Ajayi's snap count was low
-Not even looked at in the passing game last night
-Needed a perfect 2nd half game script just to get 15 touches
-Seems like he could be in trouble if they're trailing in the 2nd half, and with his injuries seems like he could be rested if they have a big lead in the 2nd half too. Seems kind of dependent on a perfect game script currently.

The good:
-He looked better than Sproles/Clement
-Looked quicker and slimmer than in the past, but still powerful
-Clement was a non-factor at the goaline
-Pederson blamed his lack of usage in the 1st half on the foot injury
-Pederson alluded to Ajayi having a much larger role going forward

I guess we will see. If his role is similar to what it was last night I would be looking to sell high, as I was before the Pederson quote came out. The coach speak has me maybe wanting to hold, but talk is cheap and we've all been burned by it many times before.
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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby CharlieKelly » Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:05 pm

TheRookiePro wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:32 pm
CharlieKelly wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 12:13 pm
Why are ya'll so eager to drop multiple firsts for Jordan Howard but want to sell Ajayi for a late 1st?
Think we're beating a dead horse now. If you believe in him keep him. But I'm going to bring it up when it goes south on you. And oh yeah, speaking of which, you still haven't mentioned WR2 Willie Snead. Do you still own him CharlieKelly?
TheRookiePro wrote:
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Snead seems to be really underrated and seems possible he's on his way to WR2 status with Cooks out of the picture.
WR2!? That's a bit ambitious. Just because Cooks is gone, it doesn't mean Snead is going to take advantage of those missing targets. He has good hands and runs nice routes. But he's too slow and undersized, a good third receiving option for the Saints, an ok one for a fantasy team.

Brees had the second most passing attempts--673, the most in his career--last season, he had a great year for fantasy but the Saints went 7-9 for a third consecutive time. They are too one-dimensional behind a 38 year old QB. They added A.Peterson and Kamara for a reason. They want fresh legs behind Ingram in order to chew up the clock and lessen the time their defense--which gave up the third most points a game last season(28.3)--is on the field.

P.S. 5/7 of their victories were one score games.
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This is not relevant at all to my Ajayi stance and also a super weird thing to keep track of after an entire year +.

Citing old, incorrect takes as a way to try and bolster your side is a lazy attack on someone's credibility. How about you link my post to Tyreek last year when I was calling for him to be a WR1? What's that? Because it's also completely irrelevant?

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Re: Ajayi last night (week 1)?

Postby TheRookiePro » Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:10 pm

CharlieKelly wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:05 pm
This is not relevant at all to my Ajayi stance and also a super weird thing to keep track of after an entire year +.

Citing old, incorrect takes as a way to try and bolster your side is a lazy attack on someone's credibility. How about you link my post to Tyreek last year when I was calling for him to be a WR1? What's that? Because it's also completely irrelevant?
No, it's not about bolstering my side it's about devaluing your credibility lol. Don't get so mad bro. It's only a joke. But in all seriousness there needs to be more of it on this site in my opinion. Thousands of dollars are on the line in these leagues and I see a lot of stupid opinions being defended on here with a tremendous fervor. Hell, if it were up to me there would be a rating system per user. I feel bad for the owners who make decisions on players when forums are dominated by stupid hot air coming out of the mouth's of users who are batting well under the Mendoza line. Last week I called out a user for properly assessing McKinnon being a liability weeks before his knee injury.

P.S. Atleast we both agreed on Tyreek last summer.
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