Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Not to mention, Baldwin has a nasty lineup of cornerbacks to face this season:
Week 4- Patrick Peterson
Week 5- Aqib Talib/Marcus Peters
Week 8- Darius Slay
Week 9- Casey Hayward
Week 10- Aqib Talib/Marcus Peters
Week 14- Xavier Rhoads
Week 17- Patrick Peterson (likely not relevant to fantasy season)
Week 4- Patrick Peterson
Week 5- Aqib Talib/Marcus Peters
Week 8- Darius Slay
Week 9- Casey Hayward
Week 10- Aqib Talib/Marcus Peters
Week 14- Xavier Rhoads
Week 17- Patrick Peterson (likely not relevant to fantasy season)
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
That's a lot of money for a wide receiver who has done nothing.Mascott93 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:05 am Lockett just got a three year extension!
"Seahawks are extending WR Tyler Lockett: three years with a base value of $31.8 million, max value of $37.8 million and $20 million guaranteed, source says. Another deal the team wanted to get done before the season."
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
How does it stack up relative to high-end PRs/KRs? That's really all he's been to this point.Phaded wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:11 amThat's a lot of money for a wide receiver who has done nothing.Mascott93 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:05 am Lockett just got a three year extension!
"Seahawks are extending WR Tyler Lockett: three years with a base value of $31.8 million, max value of $37.8 million and $20 million guaranteed, source says. Another deal the team wanted to get done before the season."
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
The Pats just paid CPatt $4.5 mil/year with $5 mil guaranteed for context. I believe he's been one of the best in the return game but doesn't really provide much on offense. This contract says Seahawks believe that Lockett is more than just a kick returner.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Lockett!!!! If, and that is a sizable IF, he can stay healthy, his arrow is pointed up.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Predicting Seahawks emerging players in the Pete Carroll era is about as easy as predicting which NE rb to start each week.
Beyond Baldwin who is probably teetering on the edge of his cliff, I have no idea who will be next to step forward from that group. Could be any of those fliers Lockett/Darboh/Moore. I'm not particularly excited for Tyler Lockett, even with the extension news. He looks to be a good not great player who I don't think becomes the #1 there. My best guess is the next true #1 isn't on their roster at the moment.
Beyond Baldwin who is probably teetering on the edge of his cliff, I have no idea who will be next to step forward from that group. Could be any of those fliers Lockett/Darboh/Moore. I'm not particularly excited for Tyler Lockett, even with the extension news. He looks to be a good not great player who I don't think becomes the #1 there. My best guess is the next true #1 isn't on their roster at the moment.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Let's keep Jaron Brown in the conversation, too.0LDMAN wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 3:58 pm Predicting Seahawks emerging players in the Pete Carroll era is about as easy as predicting which NE rb to start each week.
Beyond Baldwin who is probably teetering on the edge of his cliff, I have no idea who will be next to step forward from that group. Could be any of those fliers Lockett/Darboh/Moore. I'm not particularly excited for Tyler Lockett, even with the extension news. He looks to be a good not great player who I don't think becomes the #1 there. My best guess is the next true #1 isn't on their roster at the moment.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Kinda thinking and wondering out loud here... why hasn't Seattle looked into a Dez signing? Seems like there is a need. Also seems like R.Wilson to Dez would make sense for all parties involved. Not sure where Seattle is at money wise, but, it sure makes sense in my mind.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
^ Aside from the potential personality distractions I'm largely shocked that Dez Bryant is unemployed and Brandon Marshall in on their team.
Dez had way more left in the tank than BMarsh to my eyes.
Dez had way more left in the tank than BMarsh to my eyes.
Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Because Marshall cost Seattle barely over $1 million as opposed to the kind of money Dez is seeking. This is something that somehow keeps getting lost in the Bryant discussion. He wants a lot more money than he's worth at this stage of his career.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Dez will not be signed prior to September 1st. It makes no sense for teams to sign him now when they could wait until all rosters are cut down to 53 and the market has new names to choose from.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
To me a bigger factor is the personality. Dez could easily be a distraction, but Marshall has done a lot of the years, including getting help on his diagnosed mental disorder.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
I find it funny that the fact that he said this has such a big impact. It’s probably true about plenty of injured players, but if they don’t come out and say it it doesn’t impact our perception as much.
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Week 1 is Harris. This list was kind of the tipping point for me, thanks. I'm trying to sell him hard but nobody is biting for their 1st.TheRascal88 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 9:07 am Not to mention, Baldwin has a nasty lineup of cornerbacks to face this season:
Week 4- Patrick Peterson
Week 5- Aqib Talib/Marcus Peters
Week 8- Darius Slay
Week 9- Casey Hayward
Week 10- Aqib Talib/Marcus Peters
Week 14- Xavier Rhoads
Week 17- Patrick Peterson (likely not relevant to fantasy season)
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Re: Doug Baldwin - Cliff ahead?
Once camp gets missed, guys at the higher end of the contract range are either waiting for a catastrophic injury or waiting for week 1 to close when contracts are no longer guaranteed. Dez will likely get more offers once week one is done. I suspect the same for Darkwa and a couple of the safeties.TheRookiePro wrote: ↑Wed Aug 29, 2018 6:44 pm Dez will not be signed prior to September 1st. It makes no sense for teams to sign him now when they could wait until all rosters are cut down to 53 and the market has new names to choose from.
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