Baker is a tantalizing talent but those in 2QB or superflex leagues have a hard time valuing him since it is clear he will be on the bench starting Week 1 and potentially all year. If he is indeed out all year, his value could take a large hit - particularly since Darnold, another impressive rookie QB, could be starting Week 1. At least for me, in Dynasty the current year is always the most valuable whereas future years should always be discounted.
As a discussion point, I'm curious if you think Baker will start in the first half of the season or not?
Over / Under Baker Mayfield Starts
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He probably won't start unless Tyrod blows or the Browns are out of playoff contention.
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Cleveland's bye is week 11, they'll be out of contention by then. He will atart week 12 after the bye, Cleveland @ Cincinnati.
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Tyrod tends to get hurt, but you can’t count on Baker starting games for you this year.
Darnold is the short and long term gem of this class though, always was.
Darnold is the short and long term gem of this class though, always was.
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8 is too high. Easily under.
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Great poll idea...i love tyrod but believe the coaches are going to have to start Mayfield before week 8
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I can see this team having success with Tyrod. If Tyrod stays healthy I agree that he’s the starter until/if they are out of playoff contention.
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Eh I disagree. By every metric and eye test Mayfield is hands down best QB in this class. His mechanics are crisp. He has a strong competitive edge. He has "it". The Browns made the right choice. They knew it for awhile and several teams were ready to trade the farm to get Mayfield if the Browns foolishly passed.Nanananananana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:10 pm Tyrod tends to get hurt, but you can’t count on Baker starting games for you this year.
Darnold is the short and long term gem of this class though, always was.
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Tyrod will be starting all season and put the Browns in contention for the playoffs. Mayfield is far and away the best QB that came out this season but I'm not expecting him to start until 2019. Earliest possible would be after the bye week. It's not going to happen sooner, unless Tyrod gets hurt.
I don't agree at all with the assessment that him not starting this season reduces his value in any way. If anything, it will be helpful if he sits all season and hello his long term value.
I don't agree at all with the assessment that him not starting this season reduces his value in any way. If anything, it will be helpful if he sits all season and hello his long term value.
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Re: Over / Under Baker Mayfield Starts
I say under 4. They will wait until they are mathematically eliminated and maybe even a few more.
Browns are determined not to screw this one up.
He'll be give a full oppurtunity this time next year.
Browns are determined not to screw this one up.
He'll be give a full oppurtunity this time next year.
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Couldn't agree more, the only thing stopping the hype from reaching Luck proportions is his height. I don't believe it will stop Baker from becoming elite, he's the best thing the Browns have done in years and has the "it" factor to turn them around.Bot101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 8:16 pmEh I disagree. By every metric and eye test Mayfield is hands down best QB in this class. His mechanics are crisp. He has a strong competitive edge. He has "it". The Browns made the right choice. They knew it for awhile and several teams were ready to trade the farm to get Mayfield if the Browns foolishly passed.Nanananananana wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 7:10 pm Tyrod tends to get hurt, but you can’t count on Baker starting games for you this year.
Darnold is the short and long term gem of this class though, always was.
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This is exactly what I think as well. I think if you set the over under at 6 games it would be a somewhat tougher question. I'm not a browns fan but I really do hope they can start to turn things around just for the sake of giving those fans something after supporting a garbage team for so long.
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With the Browns it is a complete guess but I I tend to think the Browns will start him around week 3 or 4 unless they are winning out of the gate. He can really play. Tyrod is a good player but has plenty of flaws in his game in reading defenses and holding the ball too long.
This team needs a win and the fans will be calling for Baker really early if Tyrod can't turn them around quickly.
They face the Steelers and Saints out of the gate and could get blown out. Baker to start and get a win against the Jets who also have a rookie makes some sense. If not and the Browns go 0-3 I could see Baker going against the Raiders who have a suspect defense.
This team needs a win and the fans will be calling for Baker really early if Tyrod can't turn them around quickly.
They face the Steelers and Saints out of the gate and could get blown out. Baker to start and get a win against the Jets who also have a rookie makes some sense. If not and the Browns go 0-3 I could see Baker going against the Raiders who have a suspect defense.
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Re: Over / Under Baker Mayfield Starts
Ideally Tyrod gets hurt week 1 while the browns are trailing - Baker leads a come from behind victory, everyone gets free Budlight and Baker runs to mid field throws up two birds Austin 3:16 style and crushes 2 in front of a crowd.
The browns then sit Baker the rest of the season to finish 1-15 so I’ll take under.
The browns then sit Baker the rest of the season to finish 1-15 so I’ll take under.
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Seriously? I am taking the over.
If the Browns are 0-6 even up to 2-4 I think Mayfield will be the starter the rest of the way. If Tyrod can get them playing .500 maybe he keeps the job.
If the Browns are 0-6 even up to 2-4 I think Mayfield will be the starter the rest of the way. If Tyrod can get them playing .500 maybe he keeps the job.
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