I have him and Penny side by side as mine, but I go Penny because of his pass catching ability, but I think Chubb is the best early down back in this class, I have him over Guice, despite the age gap, and assumed poor situation. I have Guice at 1.04, but not a ton of difference for me between 1.02 and 1.04. I think Chubb will beat out Hyde sooner rather than later.jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:04 am Biggest question for me is whether he has regained his initial burst to get through holes or get to the edge. Thankfully our draft is after week 3 of pre-season, so I have the luxury of waiting to see him in live action. If he can do it in the preseason I would feel comfortable making him my #2 overall rookie. A very good 2 down back is good enough for me.
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On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
Just re-watched all of his touches. There were 2 runs i think where Chubb could have cut to the right spot and got 2-3 yards rather than nothing but honestly that whole performance is on the Oline. At least 3 times, the dang left tackle was dropping in to pass protection while everybody else was driving forward to block for a run. Pretty much every play had the Dline pushing the line of scrimmage back a couple yards. Will be interesting to see if week 2 gets better. Would like to see Chubb run with the ones but not sure they will be much better. LOL
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Isn't Cleveland supposed to have a good line? My hope is that once he runs with the starters he'll look good.UATahoe wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:57 am Just re-watched all of his touches. There were 2 runs i think where Chubb could have cut to the right spot and got 2-3 yards rather than nothing but honestly that whole performance is on the Oline. At least 3 times, the dang left tackle was dropping in to pass protection while everybody else was driving forward to block for a run. Pretty much every play had the Dline pushing the line of scrimmage back a couple yards. Will be interesting to see if week 2 gets better. Would like to see Chubb run with the ones but not sure they will be much better. LOL
Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
That left tackle is brutal. He was struggling at right tackle.. So I know.. move him to LEFT!
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Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
Fact! LOL. He made the first mistake playing right tackle then i saw the same mistake from the left tackle.....same guy. LOL.
Definitely agree on wanting to see Nick with the 1's. One thing is certain, the 1's have to be better than what Chubb had to deal with running behind the 2's and 3's. LOL
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Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
It is meant to be good but there are alot of questions about left tackle now Thomas has retired, pretty sure they moved their left guard out to LT and I have no idea what their replacement LG is like. I too would love to see Chubb run with the 1's.dynastyninja wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:59 amIsn't Cleveland supposed to have a good line? My hope is that once he runs with the starters he'll look good.UATahoe wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 10:57 am Just re-watched all of his touches. There were 2 runs i think where Chubb could have cut to the right spot and got 2-3 yards rather than nothing but honestly that whole performance is on the Oline. At least 3 times, the dang left tackle was dropping in to pass protection while everybody else was driving forward to block for a run. Pretty much every play had the Dline pushing the line of scrimmage back a couple yards. Will be interesting to see if week 2 gets better. Would like to see Chubb run with the ones but not sure they will be much better. LOL
Also if he was running with the 2nd string oline I keep forgetting the vriwns if they get an injury.
Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
Most teams have a poor 2nd or 3rd string o-line. The point of those playing with them is for them to shine and move up the depth chart; they should be able to flash.
Yes, you can say the offensive line was bad and it was - but it can also be used to backup a common narrarive that Chubb will take what is given and that is it.
Yes, you can say the offensive line was bad and it was - but it can also be used to backup a common narrarive that Chubb will take what is given and that is it.
Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
I dunno, if he had just taken what was given he would have had significantly fewer yards. It was a struggle just to get to the original line it was so bad. The dline reset the line of scrimmage multiple yards in th e backfield on almost every play. Once he shows that mentality when he actually does have running lanes then I will agree but that definitely wasn't what happened last week.
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Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
it wasn't greg robinson was it? it sounds exactly like how he played for the rams.UATahoe wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:18 amFact! LOL. He made the first mistake playing right tackle then i saw the same mistake from the left tackle.....same guy. LOL.
Definitely agree on wanting to see Nick with the 1's. One thing is certain, the 1's have to be better than what Chubb had to deal with running behind the 2's and 3's. LOL
Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
Yep, it was Greg. Such a huge bust man. I watched him a lot in college and he just wasn’t very good. If he is anybody’s starter, they are in bad shape. He is just awful. I did find it funny that pro football focus had him as the highest rated offensive lineman for the Browns in that game. Really? Lol
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i heard he was in as left tackle with the ones after that game. that can't be good news or any browns rb or qb.UATahoe wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:11 pm Yep, it was Greg. Such a huge bust man. I watched him a lot in college and he just wasn’t very good. If he is anybody’s starter, they are in bad shape. He is just awful. I did find it funny that pro football focus had him as the highest rated offensive lineman for the Browns in that game. Really? Lol
Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
The line was bad for sure. When I watch Mayfield he was under pressure the entire time it seemed like. But Chubb did look.... slowish? Which goes towards his 10 yard splits. Which are really bad despite the good 40 time. He takes a long time to get going now. I think people will be disappointed with Chubb long term.
Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
I thought he looked ok for his first NFL game, and having a point of contact behind the line of scrimmage every down.
What I really liked was his pass protection. He looked very confident picking up blocks when Baker was under pressure. That's s good sign.
What I really liked was his pass protection. He looked very confident picking up blocks when Baker was under pressure. That's s good sign.
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Re: On Chubb's performance, Oline was an abomination
He needs to lose 10-15lbs IMO. This wont change his top end speed but it will help get that acceleration up.Bot101 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 15, 2018 5:57 pm The line was bad for sure. When I watch Mayfield he was under pressure the entire time it seemed like. But Chubb did look.... slowish? Which goes towards his 10 yard splits. Which are really bad despite the good 40 time. He takes a long time to get going now. I think people will be disappointed with Chubb long term.
I watched his freshman and senior videos back to back last night and I think the difference isnt even the knee. Freshman he played at around 210-215 and looked like a powerful reggie bush. Senior year hes up around 225-230 but still isn't that good at pushing the pile for that extra 3 yards and seems a step slower.
So the weight gain has slowed him down and not even really added much power IMO.
I really hope he trims down during the season and gets some of that acceleration back
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Looked the part tonight. Even on a few runs of 3 yards and zero yards, made great decisions and maximized the outcome.
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