Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby mullmania » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:21 pm

If the DST isn't like the Ravens, Jags, Ram, Eagles, Vikings class than sure.

I mean what did we 'think' this time last year?

Gilslee was going early in drafts as the guy if I remember. Some guys where on James White. Dion Lewis was on the roster bubble.

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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby mullmania » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:23 pm

Plus, just focusing on week 1, if Michel isn't ready to go with Edelman suspended 4 games it's very possible Burkhead (if he's ready to go) and or James White gets a little more slot work.

And thus the Pats may have a need for more a late game grinder, goal line guy ect

If anyone didn't see the Pats preseason game that has tips the scales on Hill which sounds absurd but he made an excellent block that got the coaches riled up on the sideline and converted a 3rd down pass into a 1st down.

He looked the part.

Dynasty asset no.

Possible depth RB?

I guess so.

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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby UATahoe » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:25 pm

For me, he is as good as any dart throw out there. Guess it really depends on who else is out there too. If you are referencing the team in your signature, i wouldnt carry a 2nd D behind Jacksonville. I would just stream one for the bye week and then drop them since you will be starting Jacksonville every other week.

I also like the potential for Hill after New England if he plays well. This is a one year showing and if he gets a chance to show he can still play, who knows.
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby UATahoe » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:31 pm

I can easily see Hill putting up 800 yards rushing, 10 TD's, and probably around 15 receptions. At that point, he is probably a pretty valuable rb2 that is basically free right now.

Between Gillislee and Lewis, you have 284 rushes unaccounted for. I think its reasonable that Hill could get 200 of those.
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby joeya2001 » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:32 pm

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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby mullmania » Wed Aug 15, 2018 1:52 pm

^^ Welcome to the club buddy!! ;)

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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby ArrylT » Sat Aug 18, 2018 7:03 am

https://www.boston.com/sports/new-engla ... ning-backs

Here is a list of all the Patriots RBs ranked by various sites - take it with a grain of salt because one site, NFL.com ranks Hill for PPR but not for non-ppr. :doh:
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby Vcize » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:32 pm

I think we all know what is going to happen here. We are all going to sit here and argue about Sony's knee and Burkhead's mysterious injury and which one of them is going to lead the team or whether or not Hill or Gillislee are going to come in and be the best fantasy option.

Then Brandon Bolden is going to lead the team in rushing and TDs.
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby ArrylT » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:18 am

I cannot recall - and do not really want to look - was there a prediction last year on who would lead the Patriots backfield? I think Gillislee was the leading choice - and obviously it ended up being Lewis. Would be ironic I guess if it did end up being Gillislee this year (not saying that is the likely outcome).
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby Pet_Smith » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:40 am

I think whoever gets cut out of Hill and Gillislee could have the most fantasy relevance... Whoever is left behind will be too inconsistent and low down the depth chart to ever start.
- If the guy that gets cut gets signed elsewhere, I think they have a clearer path to carries wherever it is
- If no one signs them then they are an easy cut and you get a free roster spot for someone else, which will be more valuable than holding and hoping you have *the* Patriots goal line back
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby Cameron Giles » Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:45 am

Two things matter here:

1. Volume
2. Special Teams

Hill is not a special teams contributor; Burkhead, Michel and Brandon Bolden are. So, that's out the way. This is important because it leads to inactives. Last year, Gillislee was inactive because of it and they rolled with Lewis, White, Burkhead, and Bolden as the active RB's.

So, how does Hill become relevant enough as an early down back? He offers nothing in the passing game with White, Burkhead and Michel there. So, he would essentially need to corner a bulk of the carries on the team to be relevant. I doubt that happens, considering how much the Patriots rotate backs and their preference to have an RB on the field who can run and catch.

I guess if you play in leagues with deep lineup requirements, then he could hold value as a TD-dependent RB3/4, but in most leagues that's not anything interesting.

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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby UATahoe » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:25 am

As the originator of this thread, i feel the need to come clean. LOL. I dropped Hill in our rookie draft this weekend to make room for Peyton Barber. Wouldn't say this means i think Hill is useless, but i felt Barber provided better opportunity.

I will say though that Hill actually has been playing on all of the special teams units in the preseason i believe.
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby ArrylT » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:39 am

I would have switched Hill for Barber as well - good move. :)
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby Metriculous » Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:45 am

Excluding all data except for the "eye-test".......

Hill has looked good running the ball this preseason.

I think he has done enough to have a role for NE or the team that picks him up after he is cut.
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Re: Jeremy Hill potential for 2018

Postby hockeyBjj » Mon Aug 20, 2018 12:13 pm

btv802 wrote: Wed Aug 15, 2018 12:20 pm Potential is not very good...but he's free and on one of the best rushing offenses in the league.
This. There are worse stashes out there

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