What is ASJ worth?
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What is ASJ worth?
The ASJ owner is willing to trade him. Essentially he’s in an auction going to the highest bidder as far as a future draft pick goes. So, how high of a future pick would be worth giving up for him?
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WR: Adams, Metcalf, Callaway, Shepard, Watkins, Fuller, T. Williams, Proche
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WR: Adams, Metcalf, Callaway, Shepard, Watkins, Fuller, T. Williams, Proche
TE: Kelce, Pitts, Njoku, Seals-Jones
K: Gay
D: Vikings
Re: What is ASJ worth?
assuming a base 12 team league, a third maybe
Re: What is ASJ worth?
i'm surprised at the lack of love ASJ gets. I think he is gonna move up a tier or two this year.
Re: What is ASJ worth?
He's currently being drafted after the 25th rookie, which puts him at an early 3rd.
So if you have a late 2nd rolling around, that should seal the deal.
So if you have a late 2nd rolling around, that should seal the deal.
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Re: What is ASJ worth?
He's in the classic 'owners want more than sellers want to give'/'buyers want to pay less than owners will sell for' situation. There are a bunch of these every year.
Owners want the production they are expecting at this point, and are interested to see how featured he is in Jacksonville. Also have probably been holding for a long time so don't want to prime the machine to let the next guy hit. Buyers want to buy on the premise he is risky: substance-wise, because of JAX has a ton of WRs to distribute targets, because Fournette will be featured in a run-first offense, and because of his limited sample and relative lack of prior production. But buyers still WANT TO BUY at his highest sell point so far for the hope of immediate production and that is the hardest thing to sell or buy (as opposed to him when he was down and out, or a late round rookie TE). He's relatively young and in a shallow position that is hard to draft rookies for.
So there is no meeting of the minds and he ends up held in most leagues. FWIW I think he will REALLY benefit from how much of a dumpster fire Bortles is. Run first can be good for TE, because play-action will be easy to sell and short hits to the TE work well with it. Could see him as a safety valve for Bortles who potentially leads the team in receptions or ends up second on the team in receptions with a decent TD floor.
Owners want the production they are expecting at this point, and are interested to see how featured he is in Jacksonville. Also have probably been holding for a long time so don't want to prime the machine to let the next guy hit. Buyers want to buy on the premise he is risky: substance-wise, because of JAX has a ton of WRs to distribute targets, because Fournette will be featured in a run-first offense, and because of his limited sample and relative lack of prior production. But buyers still WANT TO BUY at his highest sell point so far for the hope of immediate production and that is the hardest thing to sell or buy (as opposed to him when he was down and out, or a late round rookie TE). He's relatively young and in a shallow position that is hard to draft rookies for.
So there is no meeting of the minds and he ends up held in most leagues. FWIW I think he will REALLY benefit from how much of a dumpster fire Bortles is. Run first can be good for TE, because play-action will be easy to sell and short hits to the TE work well with it. Could see him as a safety valve for Bortles who potentially leads the team in receptions or ends up second on the team in receptions with a decent TD floor.
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*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
Re: What is ASJ worth?
I picked him up for the 2.12 in a 12 team league that had TE Premium scoring earlier in the off-season.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
Re: What is ASJ worth?
Love that value for a TE2 floor and a mid TE1 ceiling.
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*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
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Re: What is ASJ worth?
He’s worth maybe a last round pick. Or two tacos from Jack in the Box. Move on
Re: What is ASJ worth?
StacheGang wrote: ↑Sun Aug 12, 2018 9:34 am He’s worth maybe a last round pick. Or two tacos from Jack in the Box. Move on
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*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
*5 leagues (est. 2015, '17, '18, '18, '22, 6 total 'ships)
12 Team SF, PPR, TE Prem., DT prem., IDP Start 10, QB, 1SF, 2-4 RB, 2-5 WR, 1-3 TE, 2DL, 2LB, 2DB, 1 IDPflex
QB: J. Fields, B. Mayfield, G. Smith, M. Mariota, S. Darnold
RB: T. Etienne, T. Pollard, S. Barkley, J.Jacobs A. Jones, , A. Gibson, D. Harris, Z. Moss, E. Elliott
WR: G. Wilson, T. Higgins, T. McLaurin C. Kirk, D. Hopkins, K. Toney. K. Osborn, M. Hardman
TE: T.J. Hockenson, K. Pitts, H. Henry
DL: M. Parsons, Q. Williams, D. Buckner, R. Gary
LB: F. Oluokun, R. Smith, A. Anzalone. L. David
DB: B. Baker, J. Metellus, R. Grant
Re: What is ASJ worth?
Because their tacos are delicious?
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Re: What is ASJ worth?
i think ASJ will be heavily targeted in the JAX offense. i am buying anywhere i can
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