Way too early to say that Lindsay is not worthless. And also yeah there's always going to be a few rookies that go 3rd round or later (if at all) and end up being valuable. Of course any time you draft one who is valuable you think it's because you "know what you're doing" when in reality you just got lucky.fakespike13 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 amI got Phillip Lindsay in the 4th, not worthless, if you know what you’re doing.
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2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:03 amfakespike13 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 amI got Phillip Lindsay in the 4th, not worthless, if you know what you’re doing.
Yes I'm aware it's possible to hit on late round picks. Congrats on nailing Philip Lindsay in the 4th, he went undrafted in the May rookie draft and unclaimed until August in my league which I'd argue actually has some relatively competent owners.
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QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
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Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
*if you get luckyfakespike13 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 amI got Phillip Lindsay in the 4th, not worthless, if you know what you’re doing.
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Without nitpicking where the aforementioned players actually went in the average rookie draft last year, I'll just say you shouldn't confuse one of the strongest rookie draft classes in a very long time with what happens in the 3rd round and beyond on average.
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QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
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Godwin should have been going in the 2nd in leagues where people knew what they were doing
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I think a decent % of people think they know what they are doing. I also think a high % of people like to pat themselves on their own backs on these forums.
Something to think about - A wiser person that I once said: A knowledgeable person is a person that understands that they don't know everything.
For many of these 3rd or 4th round selections to be fantasy relevant, many chips had to fall just right.
Something to think about - A wiser person that I once said: A knowledgeable person is a person that understands that they don't know everything.
For many of these 3rd or 4th round selections to be fantasy relevant, many chips had to fall just right.
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Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
Lol, you got a 3rd and a waiver pickup.fakespike13 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:40 amI got Phillip Lindsay in the 4th, not worthless, if you know what you’re doing.
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I drafted him in the 2.01 and 2.03 in the 2 leagues i own him, i had to move up in the 2nd round both times to get him.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:54 am Godwin should have been going in the 2nd in leagues where people knew what they were doing
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Looks like people are nitpicking it for meKingsKing wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:28 amI drafted him in the 2.01 and 2.03 in the 2 leagues i own him, i had to move up in the 2nd round both times to get him.Dynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:54 am Godwin should have been going in the 2nd in leagues where people knew what they were doing
GREEN MOUNTAIN BOYS
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
Not a single rookie in the 2013 draft with ADP from 25-36 is currently fantasy relevant. I think Jordan Reed is the only one who ever carried significant value. The expected return on a 3rd round pick is close to 0. Yeah we all know that you might get lucky, but you probably won't.
Team 1: 2012-2016
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
2013 Champion, 2012 Runner-Up
Team 2: 12 Team PPR - 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 R/W/T, 23 man rosters, est. 2016
2021 Champion, 2020 Runner-up
Tua, Purdy Geno, Carr
JT, Ekeler, Mostert, Javonte, Chuba, D. Harris, M. Carter, J. Hill, Spiller
Chase, AJB, Amon-Ra, Aiyuk, Olave, DJM, Dell
Andrews, McBride, Engram
IR(3): Chubb, M. Williams, Rodgers
Taxi(4): J. Palmer, Tolbert, T. Palmer
2024 Picks: 3, 4, 5
Team 3: 12 Team PPR, 6 pt Pass TD - 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 3 R/W/T, 28 man rosters, est. 2019
2021 Champion, 2022 Runner-up
Jackson, Love, Tannehill, Z. Wilson
Barkley, Mixon, Mostert, J. Wilson, CEH, Gaskin, J. Hill
J. Jefferson, Diggs, Waddle, Evans, Metcalf, Sutton, R. Moore, Slayton, Berrios, Carter, Dortch, Powell, Raymond
Kelce, Dissly, Hooper
2024 Picks: 1
Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
But if you go past 36 (mizelle 2013 August Rookie Only) you hit Kenny Stills, Rex Burkhead, Marquise Goodwin and Vance McDonald.hoos89 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:23 pmNot a single rookie in the 2013 draft with ADP from 25-36 is currently fantasy relevant. I think Jordan Reed is the only one who ever carried significant value. The expected return on a 3rd round pick is close to 0. Yeah we all know that you might get lucky, but you probably won't.
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..
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Trade your 3rds for 4ths!ArrylT wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 7:29 pmBut if you go past 36 (mizelle 2013 August Rookie Only) you hit Kenny Stills, Rex Burkhead, Marquise Goodwin and Vance McDonald.hoos89 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:23 pmNot a single rookie in the 2013 draft with ADP from 25-36 is currently fantasy relevant. I think Jordan Reed is the only one who ever carried significant value. The expected return on a 3rd round pick is close to 0. Yeah we all know that you might get lucky, but you probably won't.
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Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
juju kupp mahomes all went 3rd round in one of my rookie drafts last year. people will never fail to amaze you hahaDynasty DeLorean wrote: ↑Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:54 am Godwin should have been going in the 2nd in leagues where people knew what they were doing
team 1
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
12 team, 1 pt for 4 rec, 0.1 per rush
1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
team 2
12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
team 3
14 team sf, even scoring idp to offense (rb scores highly too)
Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
Kincaid, Kolar, Ruckert, Fergeson
Kenny Clark, josh allen, jaelen phillips, felix a-u and a bunch of fluff and rookie fliers at idp
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Re: Corey Coleman traded to the Bills
Also depends when you drafted/how many league members, but I guess it's fun to pat yourself on the back.
Going by 10 team
In SuperFlex early 2017 off-season Godwin's ADP was late second-early third, KG was undrafted in top 40, James Conner was going in 3rd-4th rounds, Kupp was back end of the 3rd round.
Obviously if you were drafting in July or August you weren't getting Godwin/Golladay that late
Going by 10 team
In SuperFlex early 2017 off-season Godwin's ADP was late second-early third, KG was undrafted in top 40, James Conner was going in 3rd-4th rounds, Kupp was back end of the 3rd round.
Obviously if you were drafting in July or August you weren't getting Godwin/Golladay that late
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