In a Salary Cap Dynasty league (100M hard cap) and I am looking at throwing a big offer at either Todd Gurley or David Johnson. In our league, if you pay a player 10M+ per season you have to sign them to a 5-year deal. You can drop them in the final year of their contract, but you are on the hook with that player for 4 years.
Is Gurley a no-brainer over DJ? Rams offence looks pretty set for the next 3 years at least. Would love to hear some thoughts on this. Thanks.
4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
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4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
Dynasty IDP League #1 - 100M Salary Cap
12-team, Full PPR, IDP (tackle heavy), 25-man active roster, 5-man taxi squad (50% salary), Rookie Squad ($0 counted towards salary)
12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)
QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)
2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)
12-team, Full PPR, IDP (tackle heavy), 25-man active roster, 5-man taxi squad (50% salary), Rookie Squad ($0 counted towards salary)
12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)
QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)
2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)
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Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
I'm looking at 20M for one of those guys per season.
Dynasty IDP League #1 - 100M Salary Cap
12-team, Full PPR, IDP (tackle heavy), 25-man active roster, 5-man taxi squad (50% salary), Rookie Squad ($0 counted towards salary)
12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)
QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)
2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)
12-team, Full PPR, IDP (tackle heavy), 25-man active roster, 5-man taxi squad (50% salary), Rookie Squad ($0 counted towards salary)
12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)
QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)
2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)
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Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
I feel like the only argument you can make in DJ's favor is actual talent/ability (and even that is a subjective argument that could lean Gurley anyway). Everything else is easily in Gurley's favor at the moment - age, offensive players around him, coach, recency bias.
Absolutely love DJ, but Gurley is a much safer bet 3-4 years from now.
Absolutely love DJ, but Gurley is a much safer bet 3-4 years from now.
10-team standard, 18-man rosters (plus K/D + 1 IR + 2 TAXI)
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
1QB | 2RB | 2WR | 1TE | 1FLEX
2021: 8-6, 5th (AP: 76-50 / 60.3%, 3rd) ||| Runner-up
2022: 5-1, 2nd (AP: 47-7 / 87.0%, 1st)
QB: Hurts, Russ, Carr
RB: Chubb, Pierce, Swift, JRob, D'Ernest, Ford
WR: Diggs, Evans, GDavis, Nuk, Keenan, Hollywood, Mooney, CSamuel, Doubs
TE: Kelce, Dulcich, Fant
2023 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
2024 Picks: 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th
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Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
I'm going with DJ over the next 4 years. I believe he is head and shoulders a better receiver than Gurley. I think the lack of other options, especially when Fitz retires, will give DJ a large volume advantage over Gurley. I understand recency bias but DJ's 2016 season was better than Gurley's monster 2017 season. I think DJ will be the top fantasy scorer bar none over the next 4 years.
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(2023 Champion)
QB: Mahomes , M. White
RB: S. Barkley, J.Mixon, A.Kamara, J.McKinnon, Breida
WR: T. Hill , AJ.Brown , D. Adams, J.Landry, M.Williams, H.Renfrow,
TE: M. Andrews , T. Hill, T. Conklin
2023 picks 2.01, 3.02
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QB: P. Mahomes, D. Watson , M.Corral, S. Thompson, M.Mariota
RB: S Barkley,K. Hunt,J.Mixon,D. Williams
WR: T. Hill, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, K.Shakir, C. Samuel, R.Gage, C.Davis, A.Thielen
TE: D.Goedert, H.Hurst, T.Conklin, N.Gray
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QB: Mahomes , M. White
RB: S. Barkley, J.Mixon, A.Kamara, J.McKinnon, Breida
WR: T. Hill , AJ.Brown , D. Adams, J.Landry, M.Williams, H.Renfrow,
TE: M. Andrews , T. Hill, T. Conklin
2023 picks 2.01, 3.02
12-team/PPR/SF. Start 1QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE, 1FLEX (rb/wr/te), 1FLEX (rb/wr/te/qb)
(2023 high scorer, 5th place)
QB: P. Mahomes, D. Watson , M.Corral, S. Thompson, M.Mariota
RB: S Barkley,K. Hunt,J.Mixon,D. Williams
WR: T. Hill, S.Diggs, J.Smith-Schuster, K.Shakir, C. Samuel, R.Gage, C.Davis, A.Thielen
TE: D.Goedert, H.Hurst, T.Conklin, N.Gray
2023 Picks 1.01,1.02,1.08,1.11 2024 2 1sts, 3 2nds, 1 3rd, 1 4th
Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
It's a wash in redraft over then next few seasons, but Gurley will be infinitely more valuable than DJ 4 years from now. Take which ever you can get for cheaper.
12 Team 1 ppr .1 points per carry
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Garbage
QB Jalen Hurts
RB A-train, D'Onta Foreman,Jahmyr Gibbs, JK Dobbins, Rashaad Penny, AJ Dillon, Jerrick McKinnon, Joshua Kelley, TDP, Chase Edmonds, JRob, Zamir White
WR CeeDee Lamb, Justin Jefferson, DJ Moore, Hollywood Brown, Brandin Cooks, Odell Beckham Junior, Marvin Jones, Braxton Berrios, Richie James
TE Dalton Kincaid, Foster Moreau
+2 Flex
1.02, 1.06
Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
Like the both but Gurley is better. DJ will be easier to get IMO.
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Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
DJ is awesome, but Gurley is even better and younger and in a better offense. Close numbers next 2 or 3 years, edge to Gurley, but then years 4 and 5 it's landslide Gurley
Team 1- 10 team ppr, 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flx, 1D, 1K
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
2022: 1-8
Finishes: 6th, 6th, 1st, 5th, 6th, 9th
QB: Lamar Jackson, Purdy
RB: Bijan, Dobbins, Achane, Charbonnet, Algier, McBride, waiver trash
WR: JSN, QJ, Addison, Dotson, Skyy Moore, Jameson Williams, Hyatt, T Dell, Boutte, Skowronek, Quez Watkins, Greg Dortch, waiver trash
TE: Hockenson, F Monroe, Juwan, Musgrave
D/K: Patriots, Vikings, Saints, Dicker
picks-
2024- 1,1,1,1,2,2,2,3,3,4,5,5
2025 1,1,1,2,3,4,5
team 2- 12 team SF, .5PPR, .5TE boost, 1QB, 1SF, 2 RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2Flex
2022: 8-1
Finishes: 2nd, 2nd, 2nd, 2nd
QB: Ljax, GenoD Jones, Minshew, Dobbs
RB: CMC, Stevenson, A Jones, Chubb, A Mattison, D cook, Perine, Mckinnon,
WR:Tyreek, Diggs, C Kupp, D Adams, Keenan Allen, Lockett, Gallup, A Lazard, Hodgins
TE: Kelce, LaPorta, Irv Smith,
No picks until 2026 5th rounder lol
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Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
Thanks for the feedback.
Dynasty IDP League #1 - 100M Salary Cap
12-team, Full PPR, IDP (tackle heavy), 25-man active roster, 5-man taxi squad (50% salary), Rookie Squad ($0 counted towards salary)
12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)
QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)
2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)
12-team, Full PPR, IDP (tackle heavy), 25-man active roster, 5-man taxi squad (50% salary), Rookie Squad ($0 counted towards salary)
12 Starters (1 QB, 1-2 RB, 1-3 WR, 1-2 TE, 1-3 DT/DE, 2-3 LB, 1-3 DB)
QB: Russell Wilson (3.5M), Deshaun Watson (7.6M)
RB: Joe Mixon (9.9M), Jonathan Taylor (3M), Jamal Williams (1M)
WR: Tyreke Hill (12.5M), DeAndre Hopkins (5.9M), Diontae Johnson (10M), Jaylen Waddle (3M), Laviska Shenault (2.5M)
TE: TJ Hockenson (8.5M), Noah Fant (5.9M), Juwan Johnson (1M)
DL: Jaelan Phillips (2M), Emmanuel Ogbah (1M)
LB: Zaven Collins (2.5M), Damien Wilson (1M)
DB: Kevin Byard (2M), Jordan Poyer (2M), Nick Cross (2M)
2022 Taxi/Redshirts:
WR - Rondale Moore (3M)
WR - Nico Collins (2M)
WR - Terrace Marshall (2.5M)
S - Richie Grant (2M)
WR - Bryan Edwards (1.6M)
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Re: 4 Year Outlook - DJ vs. Gurley
I own DJ and would agree with this. I'd take Gurley easily, even at a (reasonably) higher salary.Life of Pablo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:45 am I feel like the only argument you can make in DJ's favor is actual talent/ability (and even that is a subjective argument that could lean Gurley anyway). Everything else is easily in Gurley's favor at the moment - age, offensive players around him, coach, recency bias.
Absolutely love DJ, but Gurley is a much safer bet 3-4 years from now.
Dynasty League (25 man rosters + 2 IR, non-PPR scoring. QB/3RB/3WR/2TE/K/DB/LB/DL no flex)
QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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QB (1): Herbert, Lawrence, Darnold
RB (3): N. Chubb, D. Henry, J. Taylor, JK Dobbins, Pollard, Singletary, L. Murray
WR (3): D. Hopkins, D. Adams, M. Evans, D.J. Moore, DJ Chark, B. Aiyuk, J. Smith-Schuster, R Bateman, E. Moore
TE (2): I. Smith Jr, H. Henry, Schultz, Tremble
K (1): M. Crosby
DB (1): J. Adams
LB (1): F. Warner
DL (1): D. Lawrence
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