Breida vs. Hogan

[joekuhns11]

Nothing crazy about this. We start 2RB, 2WR, 1Flex. Breida is my RB4 and Hogan would be my WR4/WR5. Based off value alone i guess.

[joeya2001]

Hogan easily

[FantasyFreak]

Starting WR on the Pats vs Backup RB on the 49ers. Hogan, easily.

[Life of Pablo]

Breida! I'll be in the minority though.

Also this should be in the Player Debates forum. Or if it's a trade you're considering, which it looks like, then the Dynasty Team Advice forum works too.

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Hogan by a margin of Hogan...

[MEuRaH]

Hogan is being drafted 88th on average. Breida is 166th. So this is a no-brainer in terms of value.

HOWEVER....

If the bet was "who will get more fantasy points for the remainder of their careers", then gimme Breida pretty easily. Hogan will be 32 next year (holey BLEEP, right?) and that's usually the cutoff for WRs, especially one who's never done anything before. Breida is almost 10 years younger.

I'd take Hogan IF AND ONLY IF you plan on flipping for more value. He's a strong sell for this year imo. I managed to get a mid 1st for him. I think he won't have any value next year.

I'd take Breida if you know you can't flip Hogan. Also, Breida looks awesome so far this off-season, and I think he's greatly undervalued atm. I don't think McKinnon will last all year long, and Breida will take over snaps sooner than later.

[Life of Pablo]

Hogan is being drafted 88th on average. Breida is 166th. So this is a no-brainer in terms of value.

HOWEVER....

If the bet was "who will get more fantasy points for the remainder of their careers", then gimme Breida pretty easily. Hogan will be 32 next year (holey BLEEP, right?) and that's usually the cutoff for WRs, especially one who's never done anything before. Breida is almost 10 years younger.

I'd take Hogan IF AND ONLY IF you plan on flipping for more value. He's a strong sell for this year imo. I managed to get a mid 1st for him. I think he won't have any value next year.

I'd take Breida if you know you can't flip Hogan. Also, Breida looks awesome so far this off-season, and I think he's greatly undervalued atm. I don't think McKinnon will last all year long, and Breida will take over snaps sooner than later.

That's what I'm talking about! I agree with pretty much everything here.

[Ice]

Hogan by a wide margin here. He has breakout potential.

He is actually the undervalued player between these two. Both have upside but Hogan has top 20 WR upside and he can be had less expensively than lesser quality players.

I would be surprised if you could get Hogan for just him but the question itself shows he is undervalued IMO.

[Goddard]

I agree that Hogan has more value, but he's going to turn 30 in 2 months. If that's how long it takes someone to breakout, is he really going to breakout? In redraft, I'd take Hogan pretty easily. In dynasty, I think it's much closer than some are making it out to be.

[Life of Pablo]

I agree that Hogan has more value, but he's going to turn 30 in 2 months. If that's how long it takes someone to breakout, is he really going to breakout? In redraft, I'd take Hogan pretty easily. In dynasty, I think it's much closer than some are making it out to be.

Actually worse, he IS 30. Turns 31 in 2 months. I agree with what you said regardless.

[joeya2001]

I agree that Hogan has more value, but he's going to turn 30 in 2 months. If that's how long it takes someone to breakout, is he really going to breakout? In redraft, I'd take Hogan pretty easily. In dynasty, I think it's much closer than some are making it out to be.

in dynasty you still want to win right?

in what realty would Breida even become start-able?

He might end up having a career as a back up and find some light with an injury, 2-3 years of Hogan is way more valuable than Breida could be.

Mabe he steps in something and becomes something over night, but I doubt it.

[Life of Pablo]

in what realty would Breida even become start-able?

In the reality that McKinnon is who we thought he was.

[Ice]

I agree that Hogan has more value, but he's going to turn 30 in 2 months. If that's how long it takes someone to breakout, is he really going to breakout? In redraft, I'd take Hogan pretty easily. In dynasty, I think it's much closer than some are making it out to be.

Hogan was lighting up the fantasy world from the playoff in 2016 and the first 8 games of 2017 prior to injury putting up top 10 WR numbers and this was with Cooks in the line up in 17. He has very low miles on his tires so to speak given he started football late in life.

Of those top 10 over that period, 4 are older than him. I get some place huge value on age but 29 in WR's years is pretty young. He has 3 years IMO at least to play at a high level. The RB looks good but not sure he will ever get enough snaps to be more than a flex play.

Over those 11 games as not the #1 WR for the team he had 41 receptions 590 yards and 7 TD's. This type of numbers are significant and his personal situation looks better today. One could surmise pretty easily that NE was willing to move Cooks and not aggressively go after other WR's due to his knowledge of the offense and Brady, and his actual performance of the field.

I get some like Breida and he is not without skill but he is closer to a JAG in the situation he finds himself in IMO.

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I agree that Hogan has more value, but he's going to turn 30 in 2 months. If that's how long it takes someone to breakout, is he really going to breakout? In redraft, I'd take Hogan pretty easily. In dynasty, I think it's much closer than some are making it out to be.

I guess I look at it this way...

Hogan is the best WR on the Patriots. If all I get is a season or two of 80+ receptions and 1000+, that's more valuable to me than a guy like Breida who with 500-600 yards isn't ever going in my lineup.

[Goddard]

I agree that Hogan has more value, but he's going to turn 30 in 2 months. If that's how long it takes someone to breakout, is he really going to breakout? In redraft, I'd take Hogan pretty easily. In dynasty, I think it's much closer than some are making it out to be.

in dynasty you still want to win right?

in what realty would Breida even become start-able?

He might end up having a career as a back up and find some light with an injury, 2-3 years of Hogan is way more valuable than Breida could be.

Mabe he steps in something and becomes something over night, but I doubt it.

7 years in the league and I doubt Hogan has helped many fantasy teams win or be "start-able" a majority of that time. My point isn't to really say that Breida is going to help you win or even be a starter, but that we're assuming Hogan is going to do those things all of a sudden going into his 8th year in the league. I wouldn't blame anyone for taking the young guy who looked decent in his rookie year over the older guy who hasn't done a whole lot in 7 years and is about to be 30 (or 31 according to Life of Pablo). I also never said I'd take Breida over Hogan in dynasty, and merely stated that it should be much closer.