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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby ninotoreS » Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:09 am

ericanadian wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:36 am Otherwise, he's small
In terms of weight. As a modern RB pass-catcher, he's an ideal size. Nice height, long arms, heavy enough to bully nickel-corners and light enough to break linebacker ankles. Of course, this assumes he learns the craft for it, something OTAs showed the Bucs clearly want him to do. But will he? /shrug
and slow
Are you not aware that his 40 time is a wash because he was injured mid-sprint? Just watch a little bit of his tape. Even the highlights would be enough. Believe me, long-speed and explosion are not problems for Ronald Jones.

Ameer Abdullah isn't a great comparison. Abdullah has a legitimate 'rev-limiter', as I've seen others put it. Ronald Jones does not. Ronald Jones is tall and long-armed for an RB. Ameer Abdullah is not. Jones is a violent runner, despite his frame. Abdullah is not.

RoJo's USC tape is 80% Jamaal Charles at Texas, minus the confirmed testing numbers. The 20% difference is that Jones runs with more anger and less patience than Charles (which is probably why Tevin Coleman is another popular comparison).


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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby ericanadian » Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:33 pm

ninotoreS wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 5:09 am
ericanadian wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 6:36 am Otherwise, he's small
In terms of weight. As a modern RB pass-catcher, he's an ideal size. Nice height, long arms, heavy enough to bully nickel-corners and light enough to break linebacker ankles. Of course, this assumes he learns the craft for it, something OTAs showed the Bucs clearly want him to do. But will he? /shrug
and slow
Are you not aware that his 40 time is a wash because he was injured mid-sprint? Have you studied any of his tape? Long-speed and explosion are not problems for Ronald Jones.

Ameer Abdullah is a very uninformed comparison. Abdullah has a legitimate 'rev-limiter', as I've seen others put it. Ronald Jones does not. Ronald Jones is tall and long-armed for an RB. Ameer Abdullah is not. Jones is a violent runner, despite his frame. Abdullah is not.

Some of y'all need to study more. RoJo's USC tape is 80% Jamaal Charles at Texas, minus the confirmed testing numbers. The 20% difference is that Jones runs with more anger and less patience than Charles (which is probably why Tevin Coleman is another popular comparison).
Well, I guess you know more than me. Congrats on that.
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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby MrUbuto » Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:23 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:32 pm I don't think Jones's game will translate well to the NFL. Not an RB1 in my books.
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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby ArrylT » Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:38 am

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The good news is that if you read this thread we have determined officially that Ronald Jones is a bust. ;)
Please speak to clarion contrarion before considering the use of vetos..

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby Lotto4Life » Fri Aug 10, 2018 11:24 am

Plank wrote: Sat Jul 28, 2018 7:47 pm Koetter says he reminds him of Fred Taylor ..
He's hurt already?

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby ninotoreS » Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:42 pm

If RoJo can't catch passes, for me that wrecks his profile potential. He's not gonna be a 300 carry RB in the NFL. I think he's gotta be a plus pass-catcher for him to live up to his draft slot.
ericanadian wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:33 pm Well, I guess you know more than me. Congrats on that.
Sigh. Only trying to help.
MrUbuto wrote: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:23 pm Guy folds like cheap suit when touched
You're gonna have a hard time being any good at this game if you don't study any tape. Jones runs more violently than Barkley and Penny.
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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby ericanadian » Sat Aug 11, 2018 10:19 am

ninotoreS wrote: Fri Aug 10, 2018 9:42 pm
ericanadian wrote: Sun Jul 29, 2018 1:33 pm Well, I guess you know more than me. Congrats on that.
Sigh. Only trying to help.
I don't view calling someone uninformed as a good way to promote discussion. That said, my response was equally pointless. I generally find your posts to be of good quality, so I'm not holding a grudge over it at this point.
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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby Space Cowboy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:35 pm

Jahvid Best all over again. I don't even think he's as good as Justin forsett.

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby dynastyninja » Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:28 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:35 pm Jahvid Best all over again. I don't even think he's as good as Justin forsett.
So a productive running back whose career will be derailed by concussions?

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby Space Cowboy » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:01 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:28 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:35 pm Jahvid Best all over again. I don't even think he's as good as Justin forsett.
So a productive running back whose career will be derailed by concussions?
He averaged 3.7 YPC. Same home run hitter who disappeares for 10/12 carries at a time.

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby dynastyninja » Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:16 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:01 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:28 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:35 pm Jahvid Best all over again. I don't even think he's as good as Justin forsett.
So a productive running back whose career will be derailed by concussions?
He averaged 3.7 YPC. Same home run hitter who disappeares for 10/12 carries at a time.
Extremely small sample size, and he was a very productive receiving back his second season. I just don't see how he is at all relevant to the RoJo discussion.

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:00 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:16 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:01 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 2:28 pm

So a productive running back whose career will be derailed by concussions?
He averaged 3.7 YPC. Same home run hitter who disappeares for 10/12 carries at a time.
Extremely small sample size, and he was a very productive receiving back his second season. I just don't see how he is at all relevant to the RoJo discussion.
Yeah, and best could run a 4.35, Jones can't.
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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby grandmabetty » Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:33 am

Did I miss something? Yes he dropped a ball but overall his lack of yardage had everything to do with the offensive line rather than rojo. I dont think the preseason game told us anything new about his chances of success.

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby dynastyninja » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:11 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:00 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:16 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Sat Aug 11, 2018 6:01 pm

He averaged 3.7 YPC. Same home run hitter who disappeares for 10/12 carries at a time.
Extremely small sample size, and he was a very productive receiving back his second season. I just don't see how he is at all relevant to the RoJo discussion.
Yeah, and best could run a 4.35, Jones can't.
Still not relevant

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Re: Ronnie Jones

Postby DJB » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:48 am

Jones is still the best at RB once he gets to the 2nd level , maybe only rivaled by Barkley. He's elite in the open field but just like at USC the Bucs line is trash and has trouble making holes and Jones is going to get brought down in the backfield.

Part of me wishes he had been drsfted to an elite line like the Raiders
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