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allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby playa_hata » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:58 pm

i am wondering if at this point is hurns worth a 2019 1st? its not worth it for me to flip him for just a 2019 2nd rather hold and see what he turns out but am i crazy to ask league mates "first to offer a 2019 first for hurns gets him" ? dont want to come off sounding stupid in the group chat.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby knotts4372 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:01 pm

not even really sure you can get a 2nd for him honestly.

yes you would get quite alot of chuckles by league mates if you said " first to offer a 1st gets him"
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:08 pm

NO.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby playa_hata » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:18 pm

alright word i appreciate that quick feedback, ... i think i could easily get a 19 2nd for him right now everyone wants dallas' wr1 right now should i sell before season starts and hurns shows to be just what he was in jax? or do yall think he has a shot at being something special a la his 1k yds and 10 td season.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby knotts4372 » Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:32 pm

if you can get a 2nd, by all means sell him lol. i want no part of hurns unless im buying for a mid 3rd.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby TheEastWest » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:30 am

Sell for any 2nd ASAP. Hurns is not suited to face off against #1 CB’s.. I believe his value will only go down.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:36 am

playa_hata wrote: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:18 pm alright word i appreciate that quick feedback, ... i think i could easily get a 19 2nd for him right now everyone wants dallas' wr1 right now should i sell before season starts and hurns shows to be just what he was in jax? or do yall think he has a shot at being something special a la his 1k yds and 10 td season.
IDK, I think a 2nd is kind of light, I mean, he could have a hot start, and you could get a tangible name. Hurns has had injuries, but he's a starting WR, although maybe not a WR1 on a team (OK, he's not), BUT, if a random 2nd is all you can get, I think it's kind of a lateral to sub-lateral move.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby ninotoreS » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:58 am

No.

If he balls out this year in Dallas, then we'll reevaluate.

I like Hurns, but he ran over 75% of his routes out of the slot with Jax. Presumably Dallas would like him to play on the perimeter, and I just don't know how he'll do there. Analytically he's a better slot-WR than Beasley, but I'm not confident Dallas will acknowledge that and allow Hurns to take over the slot.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby skip » Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:11 am

Do not sell him for a 2nd. He will be at least as productive as Dez was last season.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby knotts4372 » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:49 am

skip wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:11 am Do not sell him for a 2nd. He will be at least as productive as Dez was last season.
at least what dez did last year? i'd be very surprised if he came anywhere close to it. not sure what makes you think he might. interested in hearing the case for it tho
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby smallxl » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:22 am

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:36 am
playa_hata wrote: Sat Jul 14, 2018 11:18 pm alright word i appreciate that quick feedback, ... i think i could easily get a 19 2nd for him right now everyone wants dallas' wr1 right now should i sell before season starts and hurns shows to be just what he was in jax? or do yall think he has a shot at being something special a la his 1k yds and 10 td season.
IDK, I think a 2nd is kind of light, I mean, he could have a hot start, and you could get a tangible name. Hurns has had injuries, but he's a starting WR, although maybe not a WR1 on a team (OK, he's not), BUT, if a random 2nd is all you can get, I think it's kind of a lateral to sub-lateral move.
2nd is kind of light.....unless Gallup ends up the #1 target through the pre-season I do not sell Hurns today for a 2nd next year. I'd hold and take a chance that his value goes up during the season.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby jcc6fd » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:46 am

Hurns was undervalued after his big year in 2015 due to his UDFA status. I guess it’s possible he exceeds expectations and is a competent top WR for DAL. It’s pretty unreasonable to ask for a first now
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby Phaded » Sun Jul 15, 2018 6:48 am

I have him - wouldn't sell for a 2nd but wouldn't expect a 1st.

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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby Forza_Azzurri » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:04 am

FWIW, I don’t think there will be a #1 WR in Dallas. You’ll see a lot variability in who gets the most targets from week to week.

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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby skip » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:58 am

knotts4372 wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:49 am
skip wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 1:11 am Do not sell him for a 2nd. He will be at least as productive as Dez was last season.
at least what dez did last year? i'd be very surprised if he came anywhere close to it. not sure what makes you think he might. interested in hearing the case for it tho
I don't think it's necessary to rehash the "Dak or Dez" debate. I fall on the same side of that discussion as does the front office and coaching staff. Couple that with Witten being gone, there are a lot of available targets and very little veteran experience other than Hurns.
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