allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby turkjetfan » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:27 am

to me hurns is a case of fantasy players looking at a depth chart and going "oh hurns is the WR1 so therefore he'll be good"

The issue is, Hurns just isn't that good at football. He had 1 good season in Jax where everyone was better than they really are statistically on offense due to total garbage time 24/7. Other than that? He hasn't done a thing and has been injury prone.

Fact of the matter is Hurns just isn't good, regardless of their depth chart. I sold Hurns already.

A first is a bit unreasonable, unless there is a Cowboys homer in your league. But I think you can probably get a 2nd.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby Phaded » Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:28 am

ninotoreS wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:01 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:59 pm would legit tak5e maclin and maybe even decker off the street and say they are better than hurns day 1
Maclin - '17 PFF grade 73.3 (#52 WR)
Decker - '17 PFF grade 71.8 (#60 WR)
Hurns - '17 PFF grade 80.7 (#23 WR)
This is a great point for the "Hurns is not good" believers.

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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby thebeast » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:08 am

Phaded wrote: Tue Jul 17, 2018 5:28 am
ninotoreS wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:01 pm
knotts4372 wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:59 pm would legit tak5e maclin and maybe even decker off the street and say they are better than hurns day 1
Maclin - '17 PFF grade 73.3 (#52 WR)
Decker - '17 PFF grade 71.8 (#60 WR)
Hurns - '17 PFF grade 80.7 (#23 WR)
This is a great point for the "Hurns is not good" believers.
You mean that he graded out at WR23 based on his 39 receptions and 400ish yards? How did he not have a bigger role with ARob going down and all the other injuries that led to UDFA's playing in critical playoff games? The Cowboys new WR1 is the Jaguars WR5... I don't get the logic.

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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby UATahoe » Tue Jul 17, 2018 7:16 am

He missed 6 games which are the direct reason he didnt put up more numbers. I think Hurns is a decent WR who is going to be put into a favorable situation. So in 10 games he put up 39 rec and 484 yards. That would have been on par for a 63/800 line. I dont think anybody should be anointing him as a league wide top 12 WR but to act like he cant have a place on a roster that starts 3 WR and a Flex? His competition for targets is almost non-existent now. I will take that type of production for my 3rd WR slot or flex easily.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby BigBawseRoss » Tue Jul 17, 2018 11:44 am

no
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby Servo » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:00 pm

Forza_Azzurri wrote: Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:04 am FWIW, I don’t think there will be a #1 WR in Dallas. You’ll see a lot variability in who gets the most targets from week to week.
Cowboys back in the late 2000s (2008 or 2009) had Roy Williams, Miles Austin and a bunch of other bums....kinda similar to their situation today and Mile Austin blew up for a couple years. In my mind, someone will become a producer on the Cowboys but who? That I don't know.

- Not betting at all on Terrance Williams (Probably worth somewhere between a 3rd/4th RD pick)
- Lofty expectations for Gallup (If you're drafting today, probably a 2nd)
- Hurns has shown he can play but will he be asked to do too much? (Probably a 2nd)
- Beasley is Beasley (3rd/4th)
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby Ruggenater » Tue Jul 17, 2018 12:43 pm

Anybody remember Laurent Robinson? Miles Austin gets hurt (as usual), this guy comes out of nowhere to put up double digit TDs, gets signed in FA by the Jags, only to disappear pretty much immediately. Laurent Robinson wasn't particularly good, but he had tons of opportunity. Hurns could do the same.

He's still not worth anywhere near a 1st to me though.
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Re: allen hurns worth a 19 1st?

Postby Goddard » Tue Jul 17, 2018 2:18 pm

I like him and think he has the best shot at being the Cowboy's WR1, but he's not worth a 1st. I can see not wanting to move him for a 2nd, but no one's going to pay a 1st for him. Wouldn't even be surprised if he had a good season and still not worth a 1st this time next year. He's one of those guys that will be worth more to whoever owns him than he will in trades.


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