Nick Chubb Thread: Chubb = Stud

[Dynasty DeLorean]

If I may recap;

1) He's on the Browns
2) He has legit competition for touches
3) He's not a plus in the receiving game
4) He's perceived to lack top 5 overall upside

[DLF3000]

If I may recap;

1) He's on the Browns
2) He has legit competition for touches
3) He's not a plus in the receiving game
4) He's perceived to lack top 5 overall upside

Hmmm... *4* strikes? Ugh.

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People want instant gratification from their rookie picks

This is the simplest and most logical answer. Most of the RBs in this draft class landed on bad running teams but because those backs have clearer paths to start they are being drafted ahead of him. Better in the short term, possibly, but for the longer term Chubb is better than nearly everyone in this class.

[Friction]

Agree with the above points. I have been trying to not put too much stock into dropping RBS that are not a threat to catch 60-80 balls and get the lions share of carries, goal line, etc. How many truly do? Too lazy to look, but Gurley, Bell, Elliott, DJ, Gordon, shady, prob SaQuad, Cook (though I can see a little more Murray mixed in after last year), and I am sure I missed one or two. Others either have a decent second back like Freeman or Kamara (did not matter for him) or are more towards the 2-3 catch per game max. That's not terrible.

[ninotoreS]

Chubb truthers that haven't drafted yet should be happy that he's falling in ADP, ofc. There's a few players in this rookie class I think are ridiculous to be falling to where they are, but I ain't saying word one in complaint, because I effing love it.

Sometimes discussions like these are fueled by people who have already drafted and reached and want to justify it, and/or by people waxing certainty but are trying convince everyone else because they're really trying to convince themselves.

[Kurt G.O.A.T.]

he went 3rd in one of my drafts and 5th in a 2qb league. hasn't dropped much at all in my experience.

[FantasyFreak]

Only one of the most effective per touch running-backs in football at every aspect of the position. Oh yeah, irrelevant.





The extension begins after this season, so it's four years including '18.

Spotrac.com still doesn't have the information on his cap vs dead-cap hit each year throughout the deal, so I don't know when he potentially becomes viable to cut, or how frontloaded or backloaded the contract may or may not be.

Regardless, if Duke continues to be as analytically elite as he has been to this point, then it's probable he'll play out the contract. Keeping his touches capped also boosts his odds to maintain good health.

if chubb proves to be the player that most are drafting....dj is a lost factor here. its no secret that haley will roll with 1 rb...if chubb, hyde, dj...can earn that....its their job to lose. i would not get wrapped up in the situation here.....other than "its the browns".

Yeah, but the situation is murky. After paying Hyde and drafting Chubb you would have thought they would let Duke walk. I think he’s very relevant to the situation. I’m not sure why Chubb proponents care that he is slipping in drafts as it makes it more likely they can get him one way or another, unless they’re getting nervous themselves.

I understand it's after this season that it starts, but if only 7.7 of the 15 is guaranteed, could they not cut him before the contract ends with minimal cap hit?

EDIT, never mind, it was covered, glossed over that part. Sorry.

[spotxc]

I took chubb at 4 over Penny. Didn't let him slip in my league

[ArrylT]

If I may recap;

1) He's on the Browns
2) He has legit competition for touches
3) He's not a plus in the receiving game
4) He's perceived to lack top 5 overall upside

Hmmm... *4* strikes? Ugh.

I believe 3 strikes in a row is called a Turkey so I guess 4 strikes in a row could be called a Chubb.

[Valhalla]

If I may recap;

1) He's on the Browns
2) He has legit competition for touches
3) He's not a plus in the receiving game
4) He's perceived to lack top 5 overall upside

Hmmm... *4* strikes? Ugh.

I believe 3 strikes in a row is called a Turkey so I guess 4 strikes in a row could be called a Chubb.

Four strikes in a row is a guaranteed score of at least 90...a VERY good rookie Madden rating. Is it a sign?!

[playa_hata]

i think once the season starts chubb will be hard to keep off the field and will become the 3 down back. duke johnson will still get usage but i dont think it takes chubb off the field.

[knotts4372]

i think once the season starts chubb will be hard to keep off the field and will become the 3 down back. duke johnson will still get usage but i dont think it takes chubb off the field.

i think thats total best case scenario for chubb owners and very much doubt it goes down that way. i love chubb and think he is their future at rb, but dont think they are paying that money to hyde for nothing. they are gonna give him touches and probably alot of them especially early in the year. i see this situation ending up very similarly to the demarco murray/derrick henry situation from a few years back, with hyde getting lions share early on and chubb gradually eating into that as the year goes on

[FantasyFreak]

i think once the season starts chubb will be hard to keep off the field and will become the 3 down back. duke johnson will still get usage but i dont think it takes chubb off the field.

i think thats total best case scenario for chubb owners and very much doubt it goes down that way. i love chubb and think he is their future at rb, but dont think they are paying that money to hyde for nothing. they are gonna give him touches and probably alot of them especially early in the year. i see this situation ending up very similarly to the demarco murray/derrick henry situation from a few years back, with hyde getting lions share early on and chubb gradually eating into that as the year goes on

They signed Hyde before Chubb was drafted. I think people should watch the interview where Highsmith compares Chubb to Jamaal Lewis, with a type of look that only an actual football player can give. Besides, Hue will play whoever saves his job. Period.

https://youtu.be/wPm_rw55lLU?t=8m59s

He specifically mentions Landry and Chubb, when talking about how to change the franchise, yet also mentions "the players they brought in in free agency" as part of that. Sure. But Landry was a free agent, and he specifiacally mentioned him. Yet Hyde was a FA, and he mentioned Chubb..... I mean, who knows, but the dude cut off the reporter to say Nick Chubb was Jamaal Lewis, then stared them all down. I think Chubb has a better chance at starting touches than some think.

"Just give him the ball." Alonzo Highsmith

[cazzie33]

I think Alonzo sees a lot of Alonzo in Chubb. Same style player as Jamal but maybe a touch more athletic, like Chubb.

Naturally he would favor a player like that but Highsmith isn't the final say so . Not the GM (who signed Duke extension) nor the Head Coach (who elevated Johnson's use over Crowell)... Chubb needs to prove or improve his receiving chops like Gurley did to be come top ten RB

[Phaded]

I get that everyone wants to chase the new and sexy thing in Chubb - but why are people completely writing off Hyde?
He had a respectable year last year in San Fran (and that team was a dumpster fire).

I know there is a potential out after 2018 with a small amount of dead money; but if he performs highly it is hard to see the Browns not keeping him for the contract they have with him. Hyde is also capable in the receiving game.

I don't think there will be anything resembling a feature back or a bellcow - I think we are looking at a full blown committee or a hot hand approach where it will get frustrating for fantasy owners on a week to week basis. I think this running back group can perform well in real life though.