I wasn't going to write about it here...or for that matter comment on someone else's in this thread (was tempted to reply to the one about hope for Cleveland)...but I agree entirely with Phaded that this is a very likely outcome in 2018.Goddard wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:50 amThis is the one I was going to write about.Phaded wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:36 am Narrative: Barkley is a lock to be a top-flight elite RB.
Reality: The speed of the NFL hits Barkley like a ton of bricks as he realizes continually bounces runs to the outside will not work in the NFL. He struggles to finish 2018 as an RB1 - most likely fringe or as an RB2 causing this community to go into a panic because a 21 year old rookie did not explode onto the scene and causing his consensus ranking to drop substantially - leaving those that paid top dollar frustrated as it would have been much easier to acquire him prior to 2019.
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Jordan Howard can't catch = he's not a good fantasy RB in PPR. After a 300/1,400/12 season, people won't care that he can't catch.
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Yeah, you are probably right. Barkley seems more like the heroin type.Pullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:28 amI've considered all the anti-narrative ideas possible and achievable, but this seems far from.Friction wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:13 am CC, no need for armor. I get to witness firsthand the border battles between the Purple People Eater Groupies and the CheeseHead Cheerleaders. At best, you might see a couple grown men temper tantrums. Entertaining stuff nonetheless.. On topic:
Narrative: The RB has returned as the coveted Fantasy Football stud position.
Reality: It was short-lived. DJ, Bell are injured, Elliott beats a teenage boy, SaQuan ends up getting caught with a couple keys of coke. Gurley turns into the 2016 version as the Rams implode under the LA pressure in year 2. Only a few waiver wire satellite backs end up having value.
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RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
12 Team 1PPR 1QB/1-3RB/1-3 WR/1TE/1DST
QB:Brady
RB: Barkley, Chubb, Jacobs, Henry, Mack, Etienne
WR: Nuk, Thielen, Cooks, Diontae, Pittman, Gallup
TE: Henry
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Narrative- putting aside Barkley, all the other big rookie RBs will be lead scorers in their backfield this year.
Reality- I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see the combo of - C. Thompson, C. Carson, P. Barber, D. Booker, C. Hyde, L. Blount, random Pats RB -outscore the combo of - Guice, Penny, RoJo, R. Freeman, Chubb, K. Johnson, and Sony.
Reality- I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see the combo of - C. Thompson, C. Carson, P. Barber, D. Booker, C. Hyde, L. Blount, random Pats RB -outscore the combo of - Guice, Penny, RoJo, R. Freeman, Chubb, K. Johnson, and Sony.
Re: Narratives most likely to Flip this Season
This is a good one.WhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 8:00 am Jordan Howard can't catch = he's not a good fantasy RB in PPR. After a 300/1,400/12 season, people won't care that he can't catch.
Narrative: Nick Chubb owns Cleveland.
Reality: Carlos Hyde stays healthy and outproduces Chubb, who battles typical rookie issues like injuries and earning PT from an awful head coach who can only look backwards, and Hyde significantly out touches and out produces Chubb posting a top 20 RB PPG season.
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I like this take. Still lots of questions in Cousins' game, he's not the surefire franchise QB that so many think he is. I wouldn't be surprise if he struggled and had a Carr-esque season.clarion contrarion wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:36 am on topic
narrative - kirk cousins is the vikes real and fantasy savior ....
reality - he crumbles under the huge expectations proving he isn't ready for prime time ....... the vikes regress and all the vikes skill guys disappoint their owners and wreck fantasy hopes.
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TE: Kyle Pitts, Goedert
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narrative : Demarco Murray is a freaking washed up bum
Reality: hes still good as hell, signs with a team before the season, goes on to be a solid rb2. signs deal, maintains relevance like marshawn thru age 32 (two more years)
Reality: hes still good as hell, signs with a team before the season, goes on to be a solid rb2. signs deal, maintains relevance like marshawn thru age 32 (two more years)
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1qb, 3 rb, 4 wr, te, k, 4 idp
Dak , Herbert
Achane, Breece Hall, KW3Kyren,Ford, Miller, Spiller, z evans, singletary
J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
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qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
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Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
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Dak , Herbert
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J Jefferson, Diggs, DK, D Smith Puka, C Watson, E Moore
Njoku , HH, Engram
2024 picks
1,3,4,5,5,6,7 (all late mostly)
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12 team .5ppr
qb, 2 rb, 2 wr, te, flx,flx,
Fields, Dak
Ford,Mixon, Javonte, Mostert, Chubb, Spears
Hopkins, Evans, g Wilson Mingo, shaheed, Jamo
Kelce,McBride, Chig,
1,2,3,3,5
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Josh Allen, A Rich, Foles, Rudolph
Bijan, Charbs, Spears, Ebner
J Williams, G Wilson, C Watson, Flowers, J Addison, Tillman
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Narrative: Martavis Bryant is the WR3 on his team, and has a suspension looming.
Reality: He is the 1B in Oakland. Martavis' skill set is complementary to Cooper's and they end up being a good 1-2 combo. The suspension talk was from some mishandled paperwork and nothing ever happens. The reporter, it turns out, is in a dynasty league where he wanted to buy Martavis on the cheap and sacrificed some of his cred to get a guy he sees as a long term WR1.
Reality: He is the 1B in Oakland. Martavis' skill set is complementary to Cooper's and they end up being a good 1-2 combo. The suspension talk was from some mishandled paperwork and nothing ever happens. The reporter, it turns out, is in a dynasty league where he wanted to buy Martavis on the cheap and sacrificed some of his cred to get a guy he sees as a long term WR1.
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WR: O.Beckham, D.Hopkins, C.Kupp, D.Chark, R.Foster, A.Wilson, J.Reynolds, S.Morgan, B.Pringle, O.Johnson, D.Williams, D.Willis
TE: J.Cook, M.Andrews, A.Shaheen, B.Jarwin
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RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, M.Breida, S.Michel, F.Gore, D.Guice, K.Ballage, D.Ogunbowale, R.Bonnafon, J.Scarlett, W.Gallman, J.Kelly, J.Wilson
WR: D.Adams, J.Smith-Schuster, T.Boyd, A.Robinson, L.Fitzgerald, Jo.Brown, M.Valdes-Scantiling, K.Harmon, Z.Pascal
TE: E.Engram, A.Hooper
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2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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WR: O.Beckham, D.Hopkins, C.Kupp, D.Chark, R.Foster, A.Wilson, J.Reynolds, S.Morgan, B.Pringle, O.Johnson, D.Williams, D.Willis
TE: J.Cook, M.Andrews, A.Shaheen, B.Jarwin
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2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4
2022 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4
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RB: D.Cook, A.Kamara, J.Mixon, M.Breida, S.Michel, F.Gore, D.Guice, K.Ballage, D.Ogunbowale, R.Bonnafon, J.Scarlett, W.Gallman, J.Kelly, J.Wilson
WR: D.Adams, J.Smith-Schuster, T.Boyd, A.Robinson, L.Fitzgerald, Jo.Brown, M.Valdes-Scantiling, K.Harmon, Z.Pascal
TE: E.Engram, A.Hooper
DST: NOS
K: W.Lutz
2020 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
2021 Picks: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
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Barkley could def happen. He hit a ton of home runs in college but did very little Frank Gore type work between the tackles.
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Narrative- Cooper has elite skills who has struggled through injuries. He's young and he's still learning.
Fact- He'll get exposed as a slot-only Landry-wanabe. Coach Gruden isn't sold on Cooper and built in redundancies should he fail. Nelson will become the short/intermediate target while Bryant will strike deep in a traditional/throwback offense like Dallas has been operating. Switzer was brought in to cover the slot in case Cooper gets another bad case of the ouchies.
Relying on an aging WR, a pothead and an aging RB running behind an underperforming oline makes the entire offense dicey.
Fact- He'll get exposed as a slot-only Landry-wanabe. Coach Gruden isn't sold on Cooper and built in redundancies should he fail. Nelson will become the short/intermediate target while Bryant will strike deep in a traditional/throwback offense like Dallas has been operating. Switzer was brought in to cover the slot in case Cooper gets another bad case of the ouchies.
Relying on an aging WR, a pothead and an aging RB running behind an underperforming oline makes the entire offense dicey.
League #1- 14 tm ppr, 1Q, 2R, 3W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1K
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League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
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League #2- 12 team PPR, 1Q, 1R, 2W, 1T, 1 R/W/T, 1 W/R/T, 1 Def
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Narrative - Barkley is locked in as an elite RB.
Reality - Barkley is locked in as an elite RB.
Reality - Barkley is locked in as an elite RB.
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Re: Narratives most likely to Flip this Season
In standard scoring, LeGarrette Blount was RB6 with 1,110 yards and 17 TDs in 2016.Fantasyfanatic11 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 5:19 am Narrative: Never own Patriots RB's, that situation is a nightmare.
Reality: Sony Michel finishes with 10+ TD's and top 10 in RB scoring.
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I truly believe this will happen or something to that effect. I truly believe he isn't as good as people want him to be. He was an afterthought up until his final season. People were praising other backs way ahead of him.Phaded wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 7:36 am Narrative: Barkley is a lock to be a top-flight elite RB.
Reality: The speed of the NFL hits Barkley like a ton of bricks as he realizes continually bounces runs to the outside will not work in the NFL. He struggles to finish 2018 as an RB1 - most likely fringe or as an RB2 causing this community to go into a panic because a 21 year old rookie did not explode onto the scene and causing his consensus ranking to drop substantially - leaving those that paid top dollar frustrated as it would have been much easier to acquire him prior to 2019.
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RB: Elliot, Mixon, Guice, Ekeler
WR: Diggs, C. Davis, Gordon, Lockett, M. Williams, Godwin, John Brown, Tre'Quan Smith
TE: Gronk, Burton, Goedert
K: Gostkowski
D/ST: Jax, Chiefs
QB: Luck, Mayfield
RB: Elliot, Mixon, Guice, Ekeler
WR: Diggs, C. Davis, Gordon, Lockett, M. Williams, Godwin, John Brown, Tre'Quan Smith
TE: Gronk, Burton, Goedert
K: Gostkowski
D/ST: Jax, Chiefs
Re: Narratives most likely to Flip this Season
spot onPullo Vision wrote: ↑Thu Jun 28, 2018 3:32 pm Narrative- Cooper has elite skills who has struggled through injuries. He's young and he's still learning.
Fact- He'll get exposed as a slot-only Landry-wanabe. Coach Gruden isn't sold on Cooper and built in redundancies should he fail. Nelson will become the short/intermediate target while Bryant will strike deep in a traditional/throwback offense like Dallas has been operating. Switzer was brought in to cover the slot in case Cooper gets another bad case of the ouchies.
Relying on an aging WR, a pothead and an aging RB running behind an underperforming oline makes the entire offense dicey.
Narrative: Allen Robinson had a fluky good year and is coming off an injury, he's a WR #2
Reality: that fluky good year was the year he wasn't awesome. He finishes top 5 PPR
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Re: Narratives most likely to Flip this Season
Yet another thread that can be clearly divided into two camps... those who have and those who do not. Lol
Seriously though, I'm diggin' this thread. Great topic idea.
Seriously though, I'm diggin' this thread. Great topic idea.
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