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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Metriculous » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:08 am

Because DJax is selfish, not very smart, and too selfish to care?

I am 99.8% sure he would rather be a pro-bowler than a super bowl winner.
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby skip » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:31 am

Metriculous wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:08 am Because DJax is selfish, not very smart, and too selfish to care?

I am 99.8% sure he would rather be a pro-bowler than a super bowl winner.
More nonsense on the forums today. Might I point out that Fitzpatrick has the team sitting at 2-0, including a win against last year's Superbowl winner? Seems to me that perhaps DJax actually wants to win football games as opposed to be finishing in the basement yet again.
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Metriculous » Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:54 am

We will see......

Sounds like a lot of guys who got Ryan Fitzlucky in superflex leagues this season hoping for a miracle to last to me.
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QB - A guy with only one or two good years left in the tank
RB1 - A guy who stands charged with several minor crimes (Guilty until proven, right?)
RB2 - Young guy that is only good because of his offensive line and workload
WR1 - A guy whose metrics make up for his stone hands
WR2 - A dude who is probably too short to catch the ball
TE - This guy played basketball, right?
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby skip » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:11 pm

Metriculous wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:54 am We will see......

Sounds like a lot of guys who got Ryan Fitzlucky in superflex leagues this season hoping for a miracle to last to me.
I don't own him. Don't plan to. From an NFL team perspective, shouldn't the goal be to win? Fitzpatrick is giving them that opportunity that's doubtful Winston would be.
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Metriculous » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:19 pm

The goal is to win.

The goal is not to sacrifice long-term franchise stability at the most important position in football.

Jameis was fantastic in the preseason. This group of talented pass-catchers would make almost any QB look good.

Fitz is not the answer for this franchise at QB next year, 5 years from now, or beyond.

Jameis might be....
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QB - A guy with only one or two good years left in the tank
RB1 - A guy who stands charged with several minor crimes (Guilty until proven, right?)
RB2 - Young guy that is only good because of his offensive line and workload
WR1 - A guy whose metrics make up for his stone hands
WR2 - A dude who is probably too short to catch the ball
TE - This guy played basketball, right?
DEF & K - I guess we are still doing this .. :wall: ...

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Patsfan86 » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:31 pm

I said multiple times I own Jameis. So why would I root against myself? With that said I stand by all of my comments that Jameis seems to have lost or be losing the team and more importantly the coaching staff and ownership. And yes we all know this will end for Fitzpatrick like it always does but he is definitely not doing Jameis any favors right now.

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Metriculous » Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:37 pm

I don't think the Bucs had a plan for this scenario either. Their original comments were "Fitzpatrick or Griffin or whoever" will not necessarily give the job back to Jameis. That doesn't really suggest supreme confidence in anything.

It does sound like me sometimes talking to my kids to "trick" them into doing things around the house though. "Extra videogame time if you do a great job cleaning your room" or "A trip for ice cream if you don't fight with your sister".

We rarely go out for ice cream and they are pretty awesome kids....... just saying.
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A bunch of league settings you won't read anyways....numbers and such

QB - A guy with only one or two good years left in the tank
RB1 - A guy who stands charged with several minor crimes (Guilty until proven, right?)
RB2 - Young guy that is only good because of his offensive line and workload
WR1 - A guy whose metrics make up for his stone hands
WR2 - A dude who is probably too short to catch the ball
TE - This guy played basketball, right?
DEF & K - I guess we are still doing this .. :wall: ...

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Ice » Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:06 pm

Metriculous wrote: Wed Sep 19, 2018 12:19 pm The goal is to win.

The goal is not to sacrifice long-term franchise stability at the most important position in football.

Jameis was fantastic in the presa SB contender eason. This group of talented pass-catchers would make almost any QB look good.

Fitz is not the answer for this franchise at QB next year, 5 years from now, or beyond.

Jameis might be....
WTF, Long term franchise stability... The real NFL isn't fantasy football.

The best players play. Fitzpatrick is playing at the highest level there is in football right now. The Bucs are not fools. He won't be sitting on the sidelines the way he is playing. In fact, it could help Winston to sit back and learn from him.

He will have a short leash but only a fool would bench him playing like this. He has great touch on the deep ball, he throws players open and the weapons he has are sick good. Fitzpatrick has always been a fearless gunslinger and chances are it could get him trouble again but he has never had this compliment receivers with solid TE's.

He just beat a SB contender and the defending champs and did it with ease.
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby dm1129 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:51 am

Mainstream media is starting to recognize what has been apparent for a very long time.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/280 ... m=referral

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby psu007 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 11:41 am

Thankfully the only place I have him is a redraft league.
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:36 pm

Man I'm not the biggest Jameis guy, never was. But many Qb's have struggled with INT's early in their career. Not excusing any one game in particular of his, but man they ask him to do everything at a very young age. I get he's unlikable and the want to call him a bust is there, but go look at other Qb's early numbers and often they're not pretty.

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:38 pm

Turning back to Fitzpatrick makes no sense. Evaluate Winston for the rest of the season and see if that's who you want leading your franchise.

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby FantasyFreak » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:42 pm

Space Cowboy wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:38 pm Turning back to Fitzpatrick makes no sense. Evaluate Winston for the rest of the season and see if that's who you want leading your franchise.
Maybe they have already made a decision. Maybe it's to see how he handles it? We don't know the conversations they had, but it can make sense to test his resolve, and because they feel it gives them the best chance to win the game. If Koetter doesn't start winning, he isn't going to care who is leading the franchise.
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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby Space Cowboy » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:46 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:42 pm
Space Cowboy wrote: Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:38 pm Turning back to Fitzpatrick makes no sense. Evaluate Winston for the rest of the season and see if that's who you want leading your franchise.
Maybe they have already made a decision. Maybe it's to see how he handles it? We don't know the conversations they had, but it can make sense to test his resolve, and because they feel it gives them the best chance to win the game. If Koetter doesn't start winning, he isn't going to care who is leading the franchise.
You think an 8-8 season with Fitzpatrick and no clarity on Winston's future is gonna save his job? Gotta play Winston, the gap isn't even that big. Both are strong arm turnover machines who won't take that crappy team to the playoffs.

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Re: Jameis Winston suspension?

Postby KCLep20 » Mon Oct 29, 2018 12:49 pm

They have to have seen enough to make a decision moving forward, no point to pull him and bench him again if that wasn't the case.
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