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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby btv802 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:15 pm

I think I heard that Buck Allen is out snapping Collins this year. Don't quote me.
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:26 pm

thebeast wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:11 pm
^ totally part of it. Interestingly, despite the missed week Mixon is only 1 pt behind Collins for the season now. However, they are both being crushed by Buck Allen, which is bad for both, but not unexpected unless you believed he was viewed as a top tier back by his coaching staff.
Fixed.

If you're an RB it's never a good thing if Buck Allen is out producing you regardless of team/situation.

Thankfully we're still in the small sample size zone...actually kind of looking fwds to seeing how it ends. This has been a fun debate. I think that Mixon will win out, but I think it's a lot closer than most ppl expected it to be, for one reason or another, when this thread was started in the summer.

And yes I hate that Buck is killing Collins production...here's hoping for an injury lol jk
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby IR1 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:38 pm

btv802 wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:15 pm
I think I heard that Buck Allen is out snapping Collins this year. Don't quote me.
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:48 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:06 pm
Johnny Canuck wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:45 am
thebeast wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:52 am
So far

Mixon 2
Collins 0
And how exactly did Mixon win week 2 vs Collins?

Week 2 was an OBVIOUS tie. Pretty difficult to get much closer than 87-90 total yards, and 4.0 ypc - 3.9 ypc.

So it’d be:

Mixon 1
Collins 0
So now it'd be:

Mixon 1
Collins 1

Beast wanted to keep score so just didn't want him to miss these weeks...staying healthy is part of the equation right? lol
Does Collins still get a point when people most likely benched him due to his poor play? I'm curious how many Collins owners had him in their starting lineups last week. Being hurt on your bench or just being on the bench are the same thing.

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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby lukkynumber13 » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:25 pm

I started Collins. I think a lot of his owners started him last week. Not sure why you think he’s been playing badly?
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:31 pm

Goddard wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:48 pm
Johnny Canuck wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:06 pm
Johnny Canuck wrote:
Sat Sep 15, 2018 1:45 am


And how exactly did Mixon win week 2 vs Collins?

Week 2 was an OBVIOUS tie. Pretty difficult to get much closer than 87-90 total yards, and 4.0 ypc - 3.9 ypc.

So it’d be:

Mixon 1
Collins 0
So now it'd be:

Mixon 1
Collins 1

Beast wanted to keep score so just didn't want him to miss these weeks...staying healthy is part of the equation right? lol
Does Collins still get a point when people most likely benched him due to his poor play? I'm curious how many Collins owners had him in their starting lineups last week. Being hurt on your bench or just being on the bench are the same thing.
A) I don't think he's been playing bad. Opportunities have been limited, that's Collins only issue.

B) You're really going too far down the rabbit hole...this is a pretty fun more fantasy pts per week contest, nothing more (0.5 pt seems the most fair).

If you want to go nuts with it, fine, but it kinda takes the fun out of the whole thing.

I could just as easily say: I wonder how many leagues Mixon wasn't started in week 1 because teams were flush at RB and had "better" options like: Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, DJ, Howard, McCaff, etc (all of whom Mixon outscored but if Mixon was on the bench that doesn't matter).

OR maybe he got benched in that first week because some owners wanted to see it first.

The IFs could on and on, they're far too league specific.

Let's just keep it light shall we.
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:34 pm

lukkynumber13 wrote:
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I started Collins. I think a lot of his owners started him last week. Not sure why you think he’s been playing badly?
His first two weeks, he only had 16 carries for 48 yards. The 4 catches for 61 yards and the TD helped, but he still only had 19 ppr points those two weeks. I wouldn't call that good and wouldn't be surprised if many owners benched him because of it. Obviously not everyone has better options on their bench so maybe some were forced to start him, but he was benched in a lot of the leagues I play in.

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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:37 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 2:31 pm
Goddard wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 1:48 pm
Johnny Canuck wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 12:06 pm


So now it'd be:

Mixon 1
Collins 1

Beast wanted to keep score so just didn't want him to miss these weeks...staying healthy is part of the equation right? lol
Does Collins still get a point when people most likely benched him due to his poor play? I'm curious how many Collins owners had him in their starting lineups last week. Being hurt on your bench or just being on the bench are the same thing.
A) I don't think he's been playing bad. Opportunities have been limited, that's Collins only issue.

B) You're really going too far down the rabbit hole...this is a pretty fun more fantasy pts per week contest, nothing more (0.5 pt seems the most fair).

If you want to go nuts with it, fine, but it kinda takes the fun out of the whole thing.

I could just as easily say: I wonder how many leagues Mixon wasn't started in week 1 because teams were flush at RB and had "better" options like: Barkley, Gurley, Zeke, DJ, Howard, McCaff, etc (all of whom Mixon outscored but if Mixon was on the bench that doesn't matter).

OR maybe he got benched in that first week because some owners wanted to see it first.

The IFs could on and on, they're far too league specific.

Let's just keep it light shall we.
A) He wasn't playing that well and even if he was, opportunity is a huge part of it.

B) You obviously missed that I was trying to be facetious and was more poking at you for poking at Beast, but I guess that wasn't very obvious.

Not sure why you took it as anything more than that, but maybe I should try to change my tone in the way I write.

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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Johnny Canuck » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:10 pm

That's a fair point, opportunity is a big part of the equation.

I may of just read it wrong. It can be difficult to discern tone in this medium from time to time. Sorry for the false interpretation.
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby maxhyde » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:25 pm

Why are we still talking about Collins/Mixon?

The more obvious question is after Gio just put up a very solid outing in the same offense against a very solid run defense in CAR. Is Mixon even better than Gio? This is really all that matters. He put up 20pts on 17 touches which I would take from any non-top 5 RB
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:38 pm

Johnny Canuck wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:10 pm
That's a fair point, opportunity is a big part of the equation.

I may of just read it wrong. It can be difficult to discern tone in this medium from time to time. Sorry for the false interpretation.
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby AussieMate » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:26 pm

maxhyde wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:25 pm
Why are we still talking about Collins/Mixon?

The more obvious question is after Gio just put up a very solid outing in the same offense against a very solid run defense in CAR. Is Mixon even better than Gio? This is really all that matters. He put up 20pts on 17 touches which I would take from any non-top 5 RB
The issue with that is I'll start to take Gio serious when the Bengals do. But it's been obvious over the last 4 yrs that they don't rate him even if his talent demands it, they persisted with Jeremy Freaking Hill rather than play Gio in a significant amount of snaps. Once Mixon is back I'd expect him to take back over the starting role with at least 65% of the rbbc workload whether anyone thinks Gio is just as good/better than Mixon.

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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Goddard » Tue Sep 25, 2018 4:32 pm

maxhyde wrote:
Tue Sep 25, 2018 3:25 pm
Why are we still talking about Collins/Mixon?

The more obvious question is after Gio just put up a very solid outing in the same offense against a very solid run defense in CAR. Is Mixon even better than Gio? This is really all that matters. He put up 20pts on 17 touches which I would take from any non-top 5 RB
People keep having differing opinions on Gio. Some say he's an average talent at best and that Mixon is only getting the workload he is because he has no competition. And then others claim he's better than Mixon.

Reality is, he's a pretty good RB and has shown that over the years. Just not as good as Mixon as some claim to be.

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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby thebeast » Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:41 am

So I actually started Collins last week. I own both guys, but value Mixon much higher and I don’t think it’s close at all, which is how this all started. I also think Gio is a very good back ( I think he is better than Tevin Coleman and could be a three down back for a team), however I also think Mixon has the potential to be much better than Gio.
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Re: Mixon to the Hall of Fame

Postby Goddard » Tue Oct 09, 2018 8:19 am

Did we stop keeping score?


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