John Ross: reports of his demise are greatly exaggerated.
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DynastyDeepDive
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Re: John Ross
With the here for John Ross, I have Tyler Boyd sitting on my wire. Any chance he takes LaFell's snaps this year or becomes something?
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kamihamster
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Re: John Ross
Ross is a hold. Because Tyler Boyd, Cody Core, and Josh Malone looked all looked good at times so you got to think that Ross has a chance of showing them up given his draft pedigree. Health issues kept him off my board.
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Re: John Ross
I love John Ross.
He allowed me to get guys like Kamara, Hunt, or Engram in a few leagues. It's nice having a 1.9 pick and basically getting a free bump to 1.8.
He allowed me to get guys like Kamara, Hunt, or Engram in a few leagues. It's nice having a 1.9 pick and basically getting a free bump to 1.8.
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Trevormortis
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Re: John Ross
Oh dear God no!Goddard wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:00 pmI'll try to increase my emoji countGtdano_14 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:44 pmAnd if you could please remind people to comment more, that'd be great. I've really been slacking here for the last month or so because I keep reading the comments but forgetting that I can actually respond. You've had 13k opportunities to get me a reminder, and I believe you've failed every time. That's pretty bad even if this were a baseball forum.clarion contrarion wrote: ↑Tue Mar 20, 2018 2:18 pm 13 K in 13 months is coogan level although you are about 47635 emojis off pace dude
time to get it together
And I'll try to do a better job of reminding everyone that they need to respond to 5 threads before posting their own
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TE - J. Ferguson
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Re: John Ross
Ross is still a hold, of course.
Cincy didn't use that pick on him to have him be a bit player. Green will be 30 to start this season, Eifert's on a one-year prove-it deal, Boyd and LaFell's PFF grades last year were terrible. Regardless of one's view of Ross, it's guaranteed Cincy will give him every opportunity to become a focal point on offense in '18 or '19. I ain't saying I'm confident in Ross (for a variety of reasons), but I am saying Cincy wants him to be their starter on the perimeter opposite Green.
Cincy didn't use that pick on him to have him be a bit player. Green will be 30 to start this season, Eifert's on a one-year prove-it deal, Boyd and LaFell's PFF grades last year were terrible. Regardless of one's view of Ross, it's guaranteed Cincy will give him every opportunity to become a focal point on offense in '18 or '19. I ain't saying I'm confident in Ross (for a variety of reasons), but I am saying Cincy wants him to be their starter on the perimeter opposite Green.
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Pullo Vision
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Re: John Ross
I don't have Ross anywhere. However, the thing that annoyed me about him was he had so little opportunity. I do like his speed and think he could earn a role, and my main reason for optimism for him is Marvin Lewis historically doesn't !like to play rookies.
Long term, I'd be worried about his injury history, and whether he'd take advantage of any opportunities that come his way.
Long term, I'd be worried about his injury history, and whether he'd take advantage of any opportunities that come his way.
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Re: John Ross
I'm holding mainly because I have to. FA are frozen from playoffs until rookie draft. Trades are in play.
They drafted him 9 overall. He had injury issues and a coach that doesn't generally play rookies. I'll get to hear about camp and even a week or 2 of preseason before I have to make my decision, but hoping for some good news between now and then.
They drafted him 9 overall. He had injury issues and a coach that doesn't generally play rookies. I'll get to hear about camp and even a week or 2 of preseason before I have to make my decision, but hoping for some good news between now and then.
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Re: John Ross
Nope, just a misunderstanding bud. I took it literally when you said you thought everybody was down on John Ross last year and was surprised considering your epic post count on this message board.
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RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
Re: John Ross
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... sive-again
Ross' offseason work with former Bengals receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh has Pro Bowl wideout A.J. Green raving about last year's No. 9 overall draft pick.
Ross' offseason work with former Bengals receiver T.J. Houshmandzadeh has Pro Bowl wideout A.J. Green raving about last year's No. 9 overall draft pick.
He's got his confidence back. The way he's working this offseason is unbelievable. He's healthy and explosive again.
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RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
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QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
Re: John Ross
Traded J.Ross for M.Jones straight up. Very happy about it!!!
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Re: John Ross
Yeah that's a great trade but jeez, can we make this the place for Ross truthers to express optimism
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QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
Re: John Ross
Yup! No way I would trade Ross for MJones, ame as I wouldn't trade Cory Davis or Mike Williams for Marvin Jones
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RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
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Re: John Ross
Not sure if serious
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12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
12 Teams - 24 Active - 4 IR - 4 Taxi - 1pt PPR, 6pt Pass TDs, No INTs - 1QB, 2RB, 3WR, 1TE, 2FLX
QB: R. Wilson, T. Brady, K. Cousins
RB: M. Gordon, D. Cook, T. Coleman, J. McKinnon, I. Smith
WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
TAXI: B. Snell, M. Weber, K. Warring
2021: 3rd, 3rd, 4th
Re: John Ross
...as a heart attack.
He is better than all the WR's this year so not selling cheap
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams
QB: Brees, Bradford, Lock(3.07)
RB: David Johnson, Penny, Sanders(1.07), Montgomery(1.06), Love(2.07) Bernard, MLynch, Morris, TJLogan, Joe Williams, Shaun Wilson
WR: Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon, Dede Westbrook, Cam Meredith, Brice Butler, Chester Rogers, Lockett, Switzer, Malone, Cain (IR)
TE: Gronk, Swaim, Maxx Williams
Re: John Ross
On the team that I traded Ross for M.Jones, I have a wr corp Now made up of OBJ, D.Hopkins, J.Landry,JuJu, M.Jones, Keelan Cole, Corey Davis, and Mike Williams. I absolutely loved the deal offered to me as I already had rookies whom I see as having higher ceilings and higher floors in Davis and Williams. I had no need to wait on Ross. In other words, Ross was expendable. M.Jones gives me very very solid wr 4 or wr 5 production. If an owner is operating a competitive team, Trading Ross for M.Jones is a slam dunk. If you are in rebuild, I'd likely favor Ross.
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