Lashing out at an owner for doing something weaselly but not illegal, in my opinion, also ruins the integrity of the league.Silver Star wrote: ↑Thu Jun 07, 2018 6:58 amI was very upset and kinda lashed out at the owner for ruining the integrity of the league.
He's 100% right. In fact, some leagues fully support tanking as a valid way to improve ones team. He didn't even have to fix his lineup, according to the rules, but he did anyway because you asked him to. Quality owner!He told me it wasn't against the rules or bylaws, but he was willing to fix his lineup for that week. We went ahead and did that
They are, unless the entire league votes to change them. That's the definition of a rule.Personally, I've never felt that the rules and bylaws are set-in stone.
No. You called them rules, so don't go calling them guidelines later on. And just because it hasn't happened in your experience doesn't mean it won't happen ever. It's your fault entirely for not putting tanking rules in the original league constitution, and it's everyone else's fault for signing onto the league and playing out the year without tanking rules in place.they are really just guidelines, and in my experience, I've never had someone just start inactive players, so I've never felt it necessary to hard-code anti-tanking or best lineup rules.
Everyone's fault, except the tanker, who is 100% in the right.
I don't care. It's not against the rules. Also, you shouldn't have forced the owner to start a lineup after 2 weeks without allowing everyone else to do the same. So you kind of created a bigger mess by applying arbitrary rules to one owner and not to everyone else.Furthermore, many teams have complained that what the owner did was unfair, as it dropped them down in the draft.
No. You can't just do that because "I don't like the mess I unintentionally created".I kind of want to change the draft order
This is ridiculous. Behavior? He did what was in the best interest of his team. It wasn't illegal, and he agreed to not do it again even though he didn't have to listen to you. Honestly, I'd want this owner in my league. He follows the rules, he plays smart, and he listens to the commish.I've also thought about removing the tanking owner entirely, because I just feel like his behavior was unacceptable. Regardless of it being in the rules or not, who does that!?
Yes, this. An owner tanks because he wants a higher draft pick. If the draft order is determined by record, you'll get owners starting bad or inactive players.It has also been suggested that I just create a new rule and implement going forward
HOWEVER, if you can make it so the rookie draft order is determined by potential points, you'll almost 100% get rid of tanking entirely. Do this, young padawan.
YOU need to be punished; for your terrible rules, improper anger towards an owner following the rules, actions taken against an owner following the rules, and then posting a public post that is obviously anti-owner for following the rules. You're obviously mad and frustrated at the owner, but it should all be directed at yourself. If you did your due diligence and homework and created/implemented anti-tanking rules in the first place, none of this would have happened. You're deflecting blame off of yourself and putting it squarely on the owner-in-question's shoulders. You owe him an apology.I feel like he needs to be punished somehow.
Use this as a learning experience and move on. Make the rule I suggested above, VOTE ON IT, and implement it.
And then find out other things that need to be changed/updated and do that too before it, too, becomes a problem.
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