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D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Sun May 27, 2018 10:37 pm

Curious why everyone is so low on lamar miller and so high on foreman? I understand foreman was starting to get utilized last year before the injury but foreman ruptured his achillies. I dont see foreman being a threat to miller anymore after that injury and im not sure why everyone is so low on miller. lamar miller has been a high end rb2 the last 4 years on really bad teams. he finally is on a high octane offense and I think he has another really solid season ahead of him. I think expectations were a little too high for miller to begin with but I just dont see foreman being a threat to take his job. would love to hear some explanations for why they think foreman will take millers job when I dont think he will ever fully recover from this injury as an nfl rb.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun May 27, 2018 10:49 pm

Where is this big Foreman hype you speak of? I haven’t seen it.

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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Sun May 27, 2018 10:57 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:49 pm Where is this big Foreman hype you speak of? I haven’t seen it.
Than you must not pay much attention everyone is scared of lamar miller due to foreman's presence.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Sun May 27, 2018 10:59 pm

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=161945

in this thread theres literally ppl saying they would have foreman as a first round pick in this years rookie draft.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Sun May 27, 2018 11:04 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:49 pm Where is this big Foreman hype you speak of? I haven’t seen it.
hype might not be the right word but ppl are down on miller due to the presence of foreman and i just dont get it.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun May 27, 2018 11:11 pm

playa_hata wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:59 pm viewtopic.php?f=6&t=161945

in this thread theres literally ppl saying they would have foreman as a first round pick in this years rookie draft.
I read the thread and one person said that.

Foreman was routinely getting 10+ carries a game and doing more with them than Miller was. If healthy, Miller owners would have a lot to be concerned about. As nearly everyone has stated though, it looks bleak for Foreman in 2018 due to his injury. I don't see this hype you're seeing.

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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Sun May 27, 2018 11:18 pm

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:11 pm
playa_hata wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 10:59 pm viewtopic.php?f=6&t=161945

in this thread theres literally ppl saying they would have foreman as a first round pick in this years rookie draft.
I read the thread and one person said that.

Foreman was routinely getting 10+ carries a game and doing more with them than Miller was. If healthy, Miller owners would have a lot to be concerned about. As nearly everyone has stated though, it looks bleak for Foreman in 2018 due to his injury. I don't see this hype you're seeing.
i dont see any hype my self. others have written off lamar miller due to the presence of foreman. if u dont see that ur blind to the fact that many wont touch lamar miller simply because he is going to "lose his job" to foreman.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Sun May 27, 2018 11:26 pm

playa_hata wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:18 pm i dont see any hype my self.
uh I guess not as you've now edited out of your OP. Regardless, I still don't know where you're getting any of this from.

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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Bot101 » Sun May 27, 2018 11:48 pm

Lol theres 3 factors to consider.

1 Miller is average at best.

2 Miller would have been cut if not for Foremans injury. Pretty established.

3 Will Foreman return, if ever, to form?

I would rather swing and miss on Foreman than have a bunt on Miller. Miller will never win or be a major contributor in a title run.

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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Vcize » Sun May 27, 2018 11:58 pm

Miller couldn't even hold off Alfred Blue down the stretch last year. Whether it's Foreman or not, there is plenty of reason to be concerned for Miller.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby skip » Mon May 28, 2018 12:01 am

This has been a topic of conversation in many threads over this off season and this one isn't going to accomplish anything more than the others already have. It is very divided into 2 camps. I'd advise anyone to take a look at actual statistics and usage rather than just throw out their opinions of who they believe was better "on film"...
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Mon May 28, 2018 12:37 am

Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:26 pm
playa_hata wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:18 pm i dont see any hype my self.
uh I guess not as you've now edited out of your OP. Regardless, I still don't know where you're getting any of this from.
dude how many times do i have to say it .... I guess hype may not be the right word but there are many out there who are scared of foreman taking millers job and i just dont see it.
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby playa_hata » Mon May 28, 2018 12:38 am

Bot101 wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:48 pm Lol theres 3 factors to consider.

1 Miller is average at best.

2 Miller would have been cut if not for Foremans injury. Pretty established.

3 Will Foreman return, if ever, to form?

I would rather swing and miss on Foreman than have a bunt on Miller. Miller will never win or be a major contributor in a title run.
i think hes a safe play tho if you have a guy like gurley zeke bell dj at rb1 to have miller at rb2/flex
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TE: Ertz, Engram, Fells

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RB:Kamara, Chubb, Hunt, Singletary
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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Dynasty DeLorean » Mon May 28, 2018 2:26 am

playa_hata wrote: Mon May 28, 2018 12:37 am
Dynasty DeLorean wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:26 pm
playa_hata wrote: Sun May 27, 2018 11:18 pm i dont see any hype my self.
uh I guess not as you've now edited out of your OP. Regardless, I still don't know where you're getting any of this from.
there are many out there who are scared of foreman taking millers job.
Again, where are you getting this from? Last year, sure. This year I can't recall seeing anyone say that.

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Re: D'Ontae Foreman vs Lamar Miller

Postby Orenthal Shames » Mon May 28, 2018 4:10 am

Miller has a safe rb2 floor this year, especially with Watson healthy. Doubtful he's in Houston next year, but there's no other real threats this season after Foreman's injury.
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