Declined Overpays...

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby CharlieKelly » Sun May 20, 2018 2:22 pm

BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 10:55 am You guys ever want someone so bad that you send the house at a guy and he still declines???? I just offered Michael Thomas, Dez Bryant, three 2019 firsts with one of the two almost guaranteed to be the 1.1, as well as three 2018 thirds, for the 2018 1.1....he still responds with ‘not even close’....so, with that being my recent, what are some of your wild overpays that have been declined?
MT is worth roughly 3-4 1sts. So you basically offered 6-7 1sts for a player who has yet to even touch an NFL field.

Consider yourself lucky it was rejected.

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby Pew Dogs » Sun May 20, 2018 2:30 pm

Madadamus wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 1:35 pm
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skip wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 12:15 pm

In every scoring system. Unless there is some crazy scoring out there doubling points for risking starting an RB from the Giants.
Disagree
I agree with your disagree.
Are you guys saying that Barkley is more valuable in standard or in ppr as well?
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby Needalife » Sun May 20, 2018 2:34 pm

It's funny, before I clicked this thread I knew exactly whom it was centered around. I have sold 1.01 in one league and unsuccessfully tried to buy in two others. Here are my moves/attempts:

(1) 1.01/Engram/Martavis for Hopkins/Ertz/JWhite (I accepted this and moved 1.01)
(2) 1.01 for Fournette/1.03/19 1st (mid to late) - DECLINED
(3) 1.01 for Bell/19 1st/19 2nd - DECLINED

It's a Barkley world right now and we're just living in it.
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Needalife wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:34 pm It's funny, before I clicked this thread I knew exactly whom it was centered around. I have sold 1.01 in one league and unsuccessfully tried to buy in two others. Here are my moves/attempts:

(1) 1.01/Engram/Martavis for Hopkins/Ertz/JWhite (I accepted this and moved 1.01)
(2) 1.01 for Fournette/1.03/19 1st (mid to late) - DECLINED
(3) 1.01 for Bell/19 1st/19 2nd - DECLINED

It's a Barkley world right now and we're just living in it.
Ludicrous that this was declined. Get a better RB in Bell and a first to bridge the age gap difference, and a 2nd as well. I'd take that anyway. If Barkley turns out to be 80 percent of what Bell has been you'll be lucky.
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby BeeziBad » Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm

He’s an 800 yard season or injury away from being worth a mid 1st.
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WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby dynastyninja » Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 pm
Needalife wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:34 pm It's funny, before I clicked this thread I knew exactly whom it was centered around. I have sold 1.01 in one league and unsuccessfully tried to buy in two others. Here are my moves/attempts:

(1) 1.01/Engram/Martavis for Hopkins/Ertz/JWhite (I accepted this and moved 1.01)
(2) 1.01 for Fournette/1.03/19 1st (mid to late) - DECLINED
(3) 1.01 for Bell/19 1st/19 2nd - DECLINED

It's a Barkley world right now and we're just living in it.
Ludicrous that this was declined. Get a better RB in Bell and a first to bridge the age gap difference, and a 2nd as well. I'd take that anyway. If Barkley turns out to be 80 percent of what Bell has been you'll be lucky.
I think he tried to trade the 1.01 for those and the owner declined.

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby dynastyninja » Sun May 20, 2018 2:44 pm

BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm He’s an 800 yard season or injury away from being worth a mid 1st.
100% not true. TRich held value for longer. Even with a more "experienced" fantasy owner, he'll be worth more than that.

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun May 20, 2018 2:52 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:44 pm
BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm He’s an 800 yard season or injury away from being worth a mid 1st.
100% not true. TRich held value for longer. Even with a more "experienced" fantasy owner, he'll be worth more than that.
Yeah, he'll get another year, at least what T-Rich did. T-Rich started stinking it up the first 3 or 4 games of his 2nd year, and then the Browns traded him for a late first, which basically told everyone they had given up on him. I don't see Barkley going that road, but I also don't think the assumed ceiling will be reached, either. I think he'll be a top 5 back at some point, but not this year.
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby BeeziBad » Sun May 20, 2018 2:56 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:44 pm
BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm He’s an 800 yard season or injury away from being worth a mid 1st.
100% not true. TRich held value for longer. Even with a more "experienced" fantasy owner, he'll be worth more than that.
I may have exaggerated a bit, but the guys with this nonsense hype would get a major reality check.
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WR - J. Jeudy, H. Ruggs, T. Higgins, L. Shenault, C. Claypool, J. Reagor, C. Davis, J. Washington, B. Aiyuk, Q. Cephus, KJ Hamler, A. Lazard
TE - C. Herndon, D. Sample
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QB - P. Mahomes B. Mayfield
RB - S. Barkley, E. Elliott, JK Dobbins, A. Peterson, M. Breida, D. Freeman
WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
TE - Z. Ertz, H. Hurst, J. Smith

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby Friction » Sun May 20, 2018 3:23 pm

People get mad when I turn down their offer of 1.04 and Ingram, or some low ball crap for almost any year's 1.01. I simply say I see the market and even if I think it's ridiculous, why sell short? I want these crazy over pays, just one offer to see it for real.
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby dynastyninja » Sun May 20, 2018 3:32 pm

BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:56 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:44 pm
BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm He’s an 800 yard season or injury away from being worth a mid 1st.
100% not true. TRich held value for longer. Even with a more "experienced" fantasy owner, he'll be worth more than that.
I may have exaggerated a bit, but the guys with this nonsense hype would get a major reality check.
Wait aren't you the guy who offered MThomas and multiple firsts for him?

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby Bot101 » Sun May 20, 2018 4:31 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 pm
Needalife wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:34 pm It's funny, before I clicked this thread I knew exactly whom it was centered around. I have sold 1.01 in one league and unsuccessfully tried to buy in two others. Here are my moves/attempts:

(1) 1.01/Engram/Martavis for Hopkins/Ertz/JWhite (I accepted this and moved 1.01)
(2) 1.01 for Fournette/1.03/19 1st (mid to late) - DECLINED
(3) 1.01 for Bell/19 1st/19 2nd - DECLINED

It's a Barkley world right now and we're just living in it.
Ludicrous that this was declined. Get a better RB in Bell and a first to bridge the age gap difference, and a 2nd as well. I'd take that anyway. If Barkley turns out to be 80 percent of what Bell has been you'll be lucky.
I think he tried to trade the 1.01 for those and the owner declined.
No he said he unsuccessfully tried buying the 1.01

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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby BeeziBad » Sun May 20, 2018 4:48 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 3:32 pm
BeeziBad wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:56 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:44 pm

100% not true. TRich held value for longer. Even with a more "experienced" fantasy owner, he'll be worth more than that.
I may have exaggerated a bit, but the guys with this nonsense hype would get a major reality check.
Wait aren't you the guy who offered MThomas and multiple firsts for him?
I suppose My words dug me into a hole. Perhaps that’s the saltiness coming out that I couldn’t buy the 1.1.... who’s more crazy; the guy offering the wild load or the guy who declined it?
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WR - J. Jeudy, H. Ruggs, T. Higgins, L. Shenault, C. Claypool, J. Reagor, C. Davis, J. Washington, B. Aiyuk, Q. Cephus, KJ Hamler, A. Lazard
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RB - S. Barkley, E. Elliott, JK Dobbins, A. Peterson, M. Breida, D. Freeman
WR - T. Hill. AJ Brown, DJ Moore, J. Jefferson, J. Edelman, B. Aiyuk, L. Shenault, JJAW, B. Edwards
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RB - E. Elliott, N. Chubb, D. Cook, R. Jones, A. Peterson
WR - T. Hill, O. Beckham, D. Metcalf, C. Davis, H. Renfrow, R. Cobb
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby FantasyFreak » Sun May 20, 2018 7:00 pm

dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 pm
Needalife wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:34 pm It's funny, before I clicked this thread I knew exactly whom it was centered around. I have sold 1.01 in one league and unsuccessfully tried to buy in two others. Here are my moves/attempts:

(1) 1.01/Engram/Martavis for Hopkins/Ertz/JWhite (I accepted this and moved 1.01)
(2) 1.01 for Fournette/1.03/19 1st (mid to late) - DECLINED
(3) 1.01 for Bell/19 1st/19 2nd - DECLINED

It's a Barkley world right now and we're just living in it.
Ludicrous that this was declined. Get a better RB in Bell and a first to bridge the age gap difference, and a 2nd as well. I'd take that anyway. If Barkley turns out to be 80 percent of what Bell has been you'll be lucky.
I think he tried to trade the 1.01 for those and the owner declined.
The way I'm reading it he sold it in the first one and tried to buy it in two others, which didn't happen.
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Re: Declined Overpays...

Postby Needalife » Sun May 20, 2018 7:25 pm

FantasyFreak wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 7:00 pm
dynastyninja wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:43 pm
FantasyFreak wrote: Sun May 20, 2018 2:37 pm

Ludicrous that this was declined. Get a better RB in Bell and a first to bridge the age gap difference, and a 2nd as well. I'd take that anyway. If Barkley turns out to be 80 percent of what Bell has been you'll be lucky.
I think he tried to trade the 1.01 for those and the owner declined.
The way I'm reading it he sold it in the first one and tried to buy it in two others, which didn't happen.
That is correct. I sold 1.01 in the Hopkins deal. I tried to overpay in the other two deals and they wouldn't budge. I'm shocked and am starting to think the hype is officially off the rails. Even a counter or some comments would be helpful but instead they just declined.

It's probably saving me from myself though. The last 1.01 is overpaid for was Run DMC. Love McFadden landing in OAK as a 3-down RB and he was electric in college. Always good to remember that things don't always play out the way you think they will.
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