Who is going too late?

[maxhyde]

For an early guy Ridley and for a later guy Cain

[Forza_Azzurri]

I think Gesicki is going too late ... IMO, he should be in the conversation right after the top 8-9 RBs are gone. I’d prefer to have Gesicki over most the WRs with the execption of Moore & Sutton.

He has a clear path to start & should receive meaningful targets. I know TEs take longer to develop, but i believe that applies to traditional TEs moreso than hybrid TE/WR like Engram last year.

[Vcize]

I think Gesicki is going too late ... IMO, he should be in the conversation right after the top 8-9 RBs are gone. I’d prefer to have Gesicki over most the WRs with the execption of Moore & Sutton.

He has a clear path to start & should receive meaningful targets. I know TEs take longer to develop, but i believe that applies to traditional TEs moreso than hybrid TE/WR like Engram last year.

While I agree Gesicki is underrated, I think there is a misnomer in thinking that Engram developed faster or was "ready to contribute" last year. He was forced to contribute last year because everyone else on the team got hurt. He certainly wasn't ready and the oft overlooked thing with him is that his efficiency numbers for a TE were dreadfully awful. Eric Ebron is about the only TE that had a worse rookie season from an efficiency standpoint in recent history.

[Rosenbluu]

For an early guy Ridley and for a later guy Cain

Preach

[TB3falcons]

John Kelly. Everyone likes to preach about how situation should be used as a tiebreaker, not as a tier mover. But very few practice it. He went from a border line 1st rounder to a 4th rounder real quick when he got stuck behind Gurly. Just remember situations can change fast in the NFL. To me he’s screaming great value at his current ADP.

That and his 6th round draft capital

[lukkynumber13]

John Kelly. Everyone likes to preach about how situation should be used as a tiebreaker, not as a tier mover. But very few practice it. He went from a border line 1st rounder to a 4th rounder real quick when he got stuck behind Gurly. Just remember situations can change fast in the NFL. To me he’s screaming great value at his current ADP.

That and his 6th round draft capital

Seriously. Kelly might turn out to be a draft steal, or maybe he's just a RB version of Charone Peak, Keyarris Garrett, ESB, Malachi Dupri, etc.

[CharlieKelly]

Feel like Tre'Quan Smith is probably going a little too late. People are reaching for guys like Gallup because of his situation but moving Tre'Quan down because they think he's in a bad situation.

He's got a great profile and belongs in the same group as Miller, Pettis and Washington based on the Saints history of drafting skill position players alone. Cooks, Thomas and Kamara are the last 3 guys drafted in the first 3 rounds by the Saints over the last couple of years. Payton knows how to use his guys.

[tresskid84]

John Kelly. Everyone likes to preach about how situation should be used as a tiebreaker, not as a tier mover. But very few practice it. He went from a border line 1st rounder to a 4th rounder real quick when he got stuck behind Gurly. Just remember situations can change fast in the NFL. To me he’s screaming great value at his current ADP.

I have felt like I was on an island on Kelly. I didn't have him in my top 40 pre-draft, so him getting selected in the sixth round basically reinforced my thoughts on him. For me, he is now going where I thought he should have all along.

[lic217]

Value picks for me:
Anthony Miller-best wr for me (great value at end of first
Kenyon Johnson-second best rb (great value for a mid first
Jordan Lasley-he looked expolsive in the couple games i watched (can get very late, like him in the third)
Chark-great potential (like him a lot in the third)
Gesecki-an incredible te prospect (like him in early second)

[mullmania]

Jordan Wilkins is one for sure. I love his style of play and I think it fits the Indy backfield best as a guy who can do everything. He could be the mid-year starter and the kind of player who could elevate a playoff run. For me, he's a late 2nd to mid 3rd. In my 2 drafts thus far, I didn't have picks in those later rounds and he went undrafted so I was able to get him off waivers. Anyway, he is undervalued for my taste.

J'Mon Moore is my other guy. I love his game and can picture his style meshing well with Rodgers. He'll have opportunity for sure. I laugh every time ESB gets drafted 1-2 rounds later. Classic!

ESB has been going before Moore in my drafts. I just got a copy at 3.10 on a team with Adams.

I love the fit in GB.

[Tsunami]

Hayden Hurst

[knut45]

Value picks for me:
Anthony Miller-best wr for me (great value at end of first
Kenyon Johnson-second best rb (great value for a mid first
Jordan Lasley-he looked expolsive in the couple games i watched (can get very late, like him in the third)
Chark-great potential (like him a lot in the third)
Gesecki-an incredible te prospect (like him in early second)

So you'd have taken Kerryon 1.02 if you had that pick? Guessing you didnt have to take him that early to get him on your roster?

[FantasyFreak]

John Kelly. Everyone likes to preach about how situation should be used as a tiebreaker, not as a tier mover. But very few practice it. He went from a border line 1st rounder to a 4th rounder real quick when he got stuck behind Gurly. Just remember situations can change fast in the NFL. To me he’s screaming great value at his current ADP.

That and his 6th round draft capital

Seriously. Kelly might turn out to be a draft steal, or maybe he's just a RB version of Charone Peak, Keyarris Garrett, ESB, Malachi Dupri, etc.

Yep. This is also the much more likely scenario, too. Unless he's Arian Foster (but running the same 40 time at a much lighter weight), the upside looks to be Special Teams guy, because he is physical, or a practice squad.

P.S. Borderline first rounder? Amateur scouts (and bad ones at that) are the only ones who would ever think that. Come on. Yes situations change fast, but talent doesn't. So if a generational type talent in Gurley suddenly suffers a career ending injury, the situation will change, and the Rams will be forced to fill that position will another RB, with a plethora of options more talented than John Kelly, some of whom are probably currently unsigned.

[knut45]

Think they were probably referring to the fact Kelly was a borderline dynasty rookie draft first rounder. ADP of 15 pre draft

[ColdZealDonkeyStrike]

While I agree Gesicki is underrated, I think there is a misnomer in thinking that Engram developed faster or was "ready to contribute" last year. He was forced to contribute last year because everyone else on the team got hurt. He certainly wasn't ready and the oft overlooked thing with him is that his efficiency numbers for a TE were dreadfully awful. Eric Ebron is about the only TE that had a worse rookie season from an efficiency standpoint in recent history.

Just curious, which efficiency numbers are you referring to? IIRC, Shepard had similar criticism, so maybe it's something to do with Eli? Also, I'd kinda expect less than great efficiency with him getting more volunteer then just about any rookie TE in memory.

Plus in Miami, it seems very possible Gesicki is the last guy standing at some point when Amendola and Parker are his main competition.