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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby Cowboysfan33 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:59 pm

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Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:20 pm
A simple google search nets what seems to be the reason. He flunked the interviews apparently. Some teams had red flags on some off the field things, pointing to some immaturity he might have. No idea what, he seems pretty safe. If he ran angry before, sitting in that green room like that might add a little extra motivation for him.
Also, Guice supposedly had some off the field stuff at LSU, people can say draft for talent but it’s got me pausing some in the one league that I have the 1.02.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby Rosenbluu » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:07 pm

Even with all these “red flags” Guice is still the 1.02 without a doubt. He still went in the 2nd round, still runs like an animal and that offense is gonna feed him simple as that. Thompson is a perfect compliment giving him some fresh air, most likely will miss a few games and Guice will show his receiving skills (yes he can catch.)

If everyone was so high on LF why not be as high on Guice? Not only did he look better on the field than LF but he also had better stats and they both have “injury” concerns (which I don’t think are anything to serious, it’s just how they run... it’s bound to happen every once in a while)

Other than RoJo I really don’t think anyone is close to Guice
Degenerates 16 Team PPR Superflex TE Premium Devy League
QB/RB/3WR/TE/4 Flex
QB: Winston/Watson/Foles/Cardale/JT Barret(OSU)
RB: Howard/Coleman/Cohen/Conner/Sproles
WR: Hill/Diggs/Kupp/MWilliams/Kelvin/Paul Richardson/Tavon/Floyd/(Washington,Ridley, Cain)
TE: Engram/Green/Amaro/Escobar

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QB/2RB/3WR/TE/2 Flex
QB: Watson/Matty
RB: MG3/Drake/Murray/Gore/Gio/Eckler
WR:Evans/Cooks/TY/Baldwin/Kupp/White/Caroo/Garcon
TE: Rudolph/Njoku/Butt/Kroft

Gridiron Greats 12 Team 2QB PPR
2QB/2RB/2WR/TE/3Flex/1(RB/TE)Flex
QB: JimmyG/Mahomes/Brady
RB: Sony/RoJo/Tevin/Lynch/Powell/Gio
WR: Hill/Cooks/Woods/Dez/Hurns/DaeSean/Boyd/Twill
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby Rosenbluu » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:36 pm

This pick reminds me of when the Redskins selected Sean Taylor, someone to change the feeling and bring a different mentality to the game. I think Guice will do that exact thing for this offense.
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TE: Rudolph/Njoku/Butt/Kroft

Gridiron Greats 12 Team 2QB PPR
2QB/2RB/2WR/TE/3Flex/1(RB/TE)Flex
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby remedy29 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 pm

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Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:16 pm
If you have the 1.02 like me, the first round results were not encouraging if you had your eye on Guice.

Never considered Michel or Penny at 1.02 but the million dollar question is... do I have to now?

Still need to see where the rest of these non-Barkley bums (hehe) go, but regardless... hard to see Guice as a slam dunk 1.02 anymore.

If you're desperate for help at RB (and those are good odds at 1.02), the 1.02 isn't as exciting as it was 24 hours ago.
How could anyone justify Guice at 1.02 now? That's crazy talk.

I'm sitting at 1.07 and I doubt Guice is in my top 7. In fact he is not.
1qb (6pt TD), 2rb, 2wr, 2 flex, k, def - keep 15 players
Luck, Cousins
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby jmr12589 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:44 pm

remedy29 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 pm
DLF3000 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:16 pm
If you have the 1.02 like me, the first round results were not encouraging if you had your eye on Guice.

Never considered Michel or Penny at 1.02 but the million dollar question is... do I have to now?

Still need to see where the rest of these non-Barkley bums (hehe) go, but regardless... hard to see Guice as a slam dunk 1.02 anymore.

If you're desperate for help at RB (and those are good odds at 1.02), the 1.02 isn't as exciting as it was 24 hours ago.
How could anyone justify Guice at 1.02 now? That's crazy talk.

I'm sitting at 1.07 and I doubt Guice is in my top 7. In fact he is not.
Hahahaha are you joking? Funniest thing I've heard all night!
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby remedy29 » Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:22 pm

jmr12589 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:44 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 pm
DLF3000 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:16 pm
If you have the 1.02 like me, the first round results were not encouraging if you had your eye on Guice.

Never considered Michel or Penny at 1.02 but the million dollar question is... do I have to now?

Still need to see where the rest of these non-Barkley bums (hehe) go, but regardless... hard to see Guice as a slam dunk 1.02 anymore.

If you're desperate for help at RB (and those are good odds at 1.02), the 1.02 isn't as exciting as it was 24 hours ago.
How could anyone justify Guice at 1.02 now? That's crazy talk.

I'm sitting at 1.07 and I doubt Guice is in my top 7. In fact he is not.
Hahahaha are you joking? Funniest thing I've heard all night!
How does Guice land in top 7? I'm pretty confident I'll see "expert" rankings with Guice outside top 7. That's all positions, not just RB.
1qb (6pt TD), 2rb, 2wr, 2 flex, k, def - keep 15 players
Luck, Cousins
D. Freeman, Burkhead, Foreman, K. Dixon, Carson, Ekeler, McGuire
A. Brown, A. Jeffrey, Robby Anderson, C. Kupp, E. Sanders, M. Bryant, Moncrief
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby Hottoddies » Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:18 am

jmr12589 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:44 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 pm
DLF3000 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:16 pm
If you have the 1.02 like me, the first round results were not encouraging if you had your eye on Guice.

Never considered Michel or Penny at 1.02 but the million dollar question is... do I have to now?

Still need to see where the rest of these non-Barkley bums (hehe) go, but regardless... hard to see Guice as a slam dunk 1.02 anymore.

If you're desperate for help at RB (and those are good odds at 1.02), the 1.02 isn't as exciting as it was 24 hours ago.
How could anyone justify Guice at 1.02 now? That's crazy talk.

I'm sitting at 1.07 and I doubt Guice is in my top 7. In fact he is not.
Hahahaha are you joking? Funniest thing I've heard all night!
I've dropped Guice down 4 spots and currently have him at 10 on my list.

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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby mlynarcm » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:12 am

All this talk about about Guice not being in the top 7 or Top 10 is ridiculous and sounds more like people trying to drive his stock down further so there's an off chance that he reaches their low end pick.

The RBs with good talent got questionable landing spots, the RBs with questionable talent got good landing spots. Which muddied the RB rankings a little.

Guice is about the only RB that has good talent and a good landing spot. I'll give a little wiggle room and he's definitely 1.02 or 1.03.

If your gonna dismiss talent and landing spot for a few chatacter concerns, everyone better run out and sell their Zeke and Leveon shares.
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QB: A. Luck, K. Cousins, M. Trubisky
RB: J. Mixon, J. Mckinnon, F. Gore
WR: O. Beckham, K. Allen, D. Adams, D. Parker, M. Crabtree, J. Edleman, B. Marshall, C. Samuel, W. Snead
TE: E. Ebron, T, Eifert, G. Kittle
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QB: Winston, Bortles, Trubisky
RB: D. Cook, D. Henry, G. Bernard, C. Carson, C. Prosise
WR: O. Beckham, J. Jones, D. Funchess, D Moncrief, Z. Jones, C. Samuel
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby hjernazian » Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:24 am

remedy29 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:22 pm
jmr12589 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:44 pm
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 pm


How could anyone justify Guice at 1.02 now? That's crazy talk.

I'm sitting at 1.07 and I doubt Guice is in my top 7. In fact he is not.
Hahahaha are you joking? Funniest thing I've heard all night!
How does Guice land in top 7? I'm pretty confident I'll see "expert" rankings with Guice outside top 7. That's all positions, not just RB.
Disagree. But one thing I do know to ring true: draft capital. Penny and Michel went in the first. Michel is tricky because he went to the Pats. BUT if a team is willing to invest a sacred first round pick in a RB shows me they are comitted. So I'll take their hierarchy over analysts or forum trolls any day.

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Michel
Guice
RoJo
Royce
Chubb
K.Johnson

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Start: 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 2 RB/WR/TE, K, DEF - 26 man roster

QB: C. Newton $20, D. Brees $9, P. Mahomes $5, B. Mayfield $2
RB: D. Johnson $54, D. Henry $14, T. Coleman $4, N. Chubb $4, Ty Montg $5, B. Powell $4
WR: A. Robinson $41, T.Y. Hilton $24, J. Landry $25, D. Thomas $25, C. Davis $4, R. Anderson $3, C. Godwin $2, M. Lee $3, K. Cole $2, C. Henderson $2
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RB: K. Hunt, C. McCaffrey, D. Johnson, M. Breida, S. Ware, Ito Smith, D. Sproles, T. Rawls
WR: AJ Green, A. Thielen, N. Agholor, E. Sanders, DJ Moore, C. Kirk, C. Coleman, T. Pryor, T. Smith
TE: J. Reed, J. Butt, E. Dickson, M. Roberts, V. Davis
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby AussieMate » Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:21 am

hjernazian wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 1:24 am
remedy29 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:22 pm
jmr12589 wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:44 pm


Hahahaha are you joking? Funniest thing I've heard all night!
How does Guice land in top 7? I'm pretty confident I'll see "expert" rankings with Guice outside top 7. That's all positions, not just RB.
Disagree. But one thing I do know to ring true: draft capital. Penny and Michel went in the first. Michel is tricky because he went to the Pats. BUT if a team is willing to invest a sacred first round pick in a RB shows me they are comitted. So I'll take their hierarchy over analysts or forum trolls any day.

SB
Penny
Michel
Guice
RoJo
Royce
Chubb
K.Johnson

in that order.
This more closely matches my list, I was never high on guice and didnt know alot about penny but a team using their first is a big tick in my rankings.
Barkley
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Michael
Guice
Chubb
Johnson
After that I'm not sure, not a big rojo fan.

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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby McCloskey22 » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:31 am

I would take ROJO over Guice, but Guice is still in my 1.03-1.05 range. Outside top 7 seems crazy. but I draft 9 so I hope so!
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby DynoScout » Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:54 am

In a universe that is just about on-field football, Guice can lead the NFL in rushing behind that Washington OL. I believe he's that talented on the field. However, to be that successful he's going to have to put in the work. The NFL rarely tells us the whole truth, but one time they do is when they use a draft pick. Executives in several cities did not want to bet their livelihood on Guice putting in the work and fitting into their locker room. That should give pause to dynasty drafters - it's a risk assessment. The ceiling is still "NFL rushing leader" but it seems like the floor isn't RB2 for fantasy....more like rookie doghouse/learn to be a professional --> non-contributor year one.

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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby Generic Username » Sat Apr 28, 2018 6:00 am

All this does is make his grip on the 2 spot a lot lighter...the "concerns" and seemingly surprise drop to late 2nd will open the door for other guys like Ronald Jones, Rashad Penny, possibly even some WR (you know this community can't help themselves with WR love) to sneak up.

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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby Tvols » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:00 am

Penny is a decent talent think Seattle screwed the pooch by not taking an o linemen there could’ve got penny much latter

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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:47 am

Tvols wrote:
Sat Apr 28, 2018 7:00 am
Penny is a decent talent think Seattle screwed the pooch by not taking an o linemen there could’ve got penny much latter
He was going to go to Cleveland by the sounds of it in the early 2nd. I think he was coming off the board soon. Hawks stated they were willing to take him at 18, and that as soon as they picked him a team (that most likely got sniped) called them to inquire about trading for him.
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