If you want a back who can catch, why target Penny?Vcize wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:20 am Teams don't always take what they feels is the best player, but rather the best fit. It sounds like the Seahawks really wanted someone that could also catch and the Pats were likely looking for someone similar to the departed Lewis as they already had 2 down between the tackles grinders on the roster.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
Cleveland is up with two of the next three picks. Everybody pray that Cleveland doesn't draft a RB
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
They seem to think he is good at it.Dookmariot wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:07 amIf you want a back who can catch, why target Penny?Vcize wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:20 am Teams don't always take what they feels is the best player, but rather the best fit. It sounds like the Seahawks really wanted someone that could also catch and the Pats were likely looking for someone similar to the departed Lewis as they already had 2 down between the tackles grinders on the roster.
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Carroll: “He is also going to be a three down back for us and he can do everything. He needs to work on his pass protection which he was not asked to do a lot of. But he will give us the ability to play him on all downs and that versatility is really big.
He’s such an excited player and he’s so versatile and dynamic that we know every time he gets his hands on the ball, he can score a touchdown. That’s in the running game and the passing game because he’s very gifted catching the football and running routes as well. "
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
I was a Guice 1.02 guy 100% and thought that the massive gap between him and Barkley may have closed slightly leading up to the draft. Then I saw him interviewed before the draft last night. The reports of teams being concerned about his maturity are legitimate... he sounded like a 15 year old. That said, not sure how much of an impact his (lack of) maturity will have on his draft position.
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I like Penny, but this is what I am so confused about though. Why does Pete hate Russell Wilson so much? Protecting him is the one thing the Seahawks need to be focusing on. Also, being a good pass protector is pretty essential for an every down RB, no?Vcize wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:17 am From Pete Carroll:
Carroll: “He is also going to be a three down back for us and he can do everything. He needs to work on his pass protection which he was not asked to do a lot of. But he will give us the ability to play him on all downs and that versatility is really big."
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WR: B. Cooks, J. Jones, A.J. Green, S. Watkins, M. Williams, M. Valdes-Scantling, J. Ross, M. Lee, T. Taylor, P. Richardson
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TE: T. Kelce, D. Njoku, J. Smith
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
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I'm not sure that NEP and SEA taking Michel and Penny over Guice indicates that he is not considered a top 3 RB to the rest of the NFL.
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I'm holding 1.02 in both my leagues and have RB needs in both. Last night gave me pause but unless Guise slips a lot further I'm still on board.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
i cant see the browns passing on both guice or chubb with one of their 2 early 2nd rounders.
Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
He didn't even sound like an intelligent 15 year old.Boomstick wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:19 am I was a Guice 1.02 guy 100% and thought that the massive gap between him and Barkley may have closed slightly leading up to the draft. Then I saw him interviewed before the draft last night. The reports of teams being concerned about his maturity are legitimate... he sounded like a 15 year old. That said, not sure how much of an impact his (lack of) maturity will have on his draft position.
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I'd bet against this ^ with confidence. But.... as always, anything could happen.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
Different teams and talent evaluators garner different results. Very true.GridironGuerilla wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 8:38 am I'm not sure that NEP and SEA taking Michel and Penny over Guice indicates that he is not considered a top 3 RB to the rest of the NFL.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
I am not surprised about Guice not going in the 1st. Especially with teams questioning his character, maturity and what type of teammate he would be rather openly.
Chubb is vastly overrated by this community and probably should be the 6th RB off the board. He should not even be considered in the 1st.
Chubb is vastly overrated by this community and probably should be the 6th RB off the board. He should not even be considered in the 1st.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
Phaded wrote: ↑Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:29 am I am not surprised about Guice not going in the 1st. Especially with teams questioning his character, maturity and what type of teammate he would be rather openly.
Chubb is vastly overrated by this community and probably should be the 6th RB off the board. He should not even be considered in the 1st.
In rookie drafts? Come on. Not even considered? Maybe not on your board, but I think you are vastly underrating him.
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Re: Guice not top 3 RB to NFL
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