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Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
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This other forum I was on allowed us to go up to 20. We tried ranking the top 50 players in the NBA once. Polls were a mess...FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:05 pm This poll needs more options. Seriously, though, it's like Baskin Robbins up there.
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
So basically, it seems like this forum is of the opinion that, if it isn't in the rules, then it's fair game. Correct?
Or is it more like, if it isn't in the bylaws, then it can't be something that deserves punishment?
Or is it more like, if it isn't in the bylaws, then it can't be something that deserves punishment?
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
I wonder who voted to remove the tanking owner?
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
Does it matter that the tanking owner acquiesced to the complaints and changed his lineup to not cause any drama?
If the commish changes the draft order, is he creating drama?
If the commish changes the draft order, is he creating drama?
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
Man, I'm going to acquiesce to the obvious desire for a response. You have now made 5 posts in a row on a thread you've created. You have not only cluttered the Dynasty Discussion threads recently, but also the Commish threads as well. I'm not trying to be mean, but you guys need to figure it out on your own, IMO. I understand the desire for feedback, but you need to use discretion, and tact once in a while. If I'm coming across as harsh, that is not my intent, just trying to be honest. If this is all the same league, either you need to seriously re-evaluate how seriously you are taking it, or just get out of the league already.turcorox911 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:17 pm Does it matter that the tanking owner acquiesced to the complaints and changed his lineup to not cause any drama?
If the commish changes the draft order, is he creating drama?
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
I think it's much more the 2nd point, though I have heard some people argue the 1st.turcorox911 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 26, 2018 4:29 pm So basically, it seems like this forum is of the opinion that, if it isn't in the rules, then it's fair game. Correct?
Or is it more like, if it isn't in the bylaws, then it can't be something that deserves punishment?
I've heard/seen league by-laws that include an "integrity of the league" clause. Without a catch-all like that, I can't see any action an owner taking being punished if it isn't specifically mentioned in the rules.
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
Not that harsh at all tbh. Just thought I'd ask.FantasyFreak wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 1:12 amMan, I'm going to acquiesce to the obvious desire for a response. You have now made 5 posts in a row on a thread you've created. You have not only cluttered the Dynasty Discussion threads recently, but also the Commish threads as well. I'm not trying to be mean, but you guys need to figure it out on your own, IMO. I understand the desire for feedback, but you need to use discretion, and tact once in a while. If I'm coming across as harsh, that is not my intent, just trying to be honest. If this is all the same league, either you need to seriously re-evaluate how seriously you are taking it, or just get out of the league already.turcorox911 wrote: ↑Sat May 05, 2018 10:17 pm Does it matter that the tanking owner acquiesced to the complaints and changed his lineup to not cause any drama?
If the commish changes the draft order, is he creating drama?
Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
Even more ingenious would've been if that owner got Goff then left him on the bench and picked up the worst guy off the wire @ QB.Bad News Barrett wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:08 pmIt wasn’t Foles, it was Goff. I still have foles on that teamWhatWouldDitkaDo wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:43 pmThat's ingenious and completely legal in my eyes.Bad News Barrett wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 2:10 pm How devious of a strategy is this?
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That would have been funny.cazzie33 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 6:17 amEven more ingenious would've been if that owner got Goff then left him on the bench and picked up the worst guy off the wire @ QB.Bad News Barrett wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 3:08 pmIt wasn’t Foles, it was Goff. I still have foles on that team
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For Tanking?
X3 (at least, only read to this point)pierson242 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:52 amBelichekYourSelf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:43 am You can't punish someone for tanking when their is no rule against it. Especially since it seems like it has happened before with no punishment. If people in the league don't want people to tank than implement the rules now and enforce from this point on.
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For Tanking?
So if a retroactive change is made, is that a sign of a bad commish?jetsfan5757 wrote: ↑Sun May 06, 2018 3:46 pmX3 (at least, only read to this point)pierson242 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:52 amBelichekYourSelf wrote: ↑Tue Apr 24, 2018 9:43 am You can't punish someone for tanking when their is no rule against it. Especially since it seems like it has happened before with no punishment. If people in the league don't want people to tank than implement the rules now and enforce from this point on.
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
I voted "No," but that was before I carefully read through the options.
The tanking owner asked the commish, and although not in plain English, was essentially given permission by the commish to do what he/she did. The tanking owner should get a talking to about the spirit of tanking, but he/she didn't do anything actually wrong since to this point there are no anti-tanking rules AND he/she ran it by the commissioner.
The commish is who is in the wrong here. You should have strict anti-tanking rules in place, and even if you don't, his response was lazy and did not in any way discourage the tanking owner from tanking.
You should proceed with the current draft order, but implement an anti-tanking rule to be effective from here on out.
My favorite anti-tanking measure is PP (possible points).
The tanking owner asked the commish, and although not in plain English, was essentially given permission by the commish to do what he/she did. The tanking owner should get a talking to about the spirit of tanking, but he/she didn't do anything actually wrong since to this point there are no anti-tanking rules AND he/she ran it by the commissioner.
The commish is who is in the wrong here. You should have strict anti-tanking rules in place, and even if you don't, his response was lazy and did not in any way discourage the tanking owner from tanking.
You should proceed with the current draft order, but implement an anti-tanking rule to be effective from here on out.
My favorite anti-tanking measure is PP (possible points).
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
Good analysis. Thanks so much!ascherb wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 1:19 pm I voted "No," but that was before I carefully read through the options.
The tanking owner asked the commish, and although not in plain English, was essentially given permission by the commish to do what he/she did. The tanking owner should get a talking to about the spirit of tanking, but he/she didn't do anything actually wrong since to this point there are no anti-tanking rules AND he/she ran it by the commissioner.
The commish is who is in the wrong here. You should have strict anti-tanking rules in place, and even if you don't, his response was lazy and did not in any way discourage the tanking owner from tanking.
You should proceed with the current draft order, but implement an anti-tanking rule to be effective from here on out.
My favorite anti-tanking measure is PP (possible points).
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Re: TLDR: Should The Commissioner "Correct" For This Instance Of Tanking?
I am curious though, what if the owner did not run it by the commish at all? There still aren't any anti-tanking rules, but if he/she did not run it by the commish, then would it be OK to change the draft order? Just wondering.ascherb wrote: ↑Mon May 07, 2018 1:19 pm I voted "No," but that was before I carefully read through the options.
The tanking owner asked the commish, and although not in plain English, was essentially given permission by the commish to do what he/she did. The tanking owner should get a talking to about the spirit of tanking, but he/she didn't do anything actually wrong since to this point there are no anti-tanking rules AND he/she ran it by the commissioner.
The commish is who is in the wrong here. You should have strict anti-tanking rules in place, and even if you don't, his response was lazy and did not in any way discourage the tanking owner from tanking.
You should proceed with the current draft order, but implement an anti-tanking rule to be effective from here on out.
My favorite anti-tanking measure is PP (possible points).
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