Julio Jones Thread: Traded to Tennessee

[Vcize]

Dude is 2 years into a 5 year deal and his performance, if anything, has declined slightly since he signed. Why exactly does he feel he's in line for a new deal?

[Valhalla]

Dude is 2 years into a 5 year deal and his performance, if anything, has declined slightly since he signed. Why exactly does he feel he's in line for a new deal?

Because other WRs got paid...simple as that.

[Vcize]

Dude is 2 years into a 5 year deal and his performance, if anything, has declined slightly since he signed. Why exactly does he feel he's in line for a new deal?

Because other WRs got paid...simple as that.

Seems like he needs to manage his expectations. That's how things work. The guys who signed most recently get paid the most.

These guys want the security of a long-term deal, but they want the freedom to sign a new contract of a short term deal. You can't have it both ways. Julio made his choice. If I were the Falcons I would tell Julio to pound sand.

Maybe this will help people make sense of why Le'Veon wasn't willing to lock himself up for basically the last contract of his career for a little bit more guaranteed money than he gets this year anyway.

[Ice]

Julio is just upset. He want's to be the highest paid WR. The NFL doesn't work that way. Just like A. Rodgers he isn't the top paid anymore.

In 2015 he signed a huge at the time contract for 71 Plus Million with practical guarantees of 47 Million which is still tied for the 3rd largest ever.

However there has been plenty of recent contracts; (7) I think that pay out more money on a per year basis which is really a function of 2017 and 2018 contracts.

Dude is butt hurt for no real reason other than ego.

Here is a link of the top contracts at the position.
https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/contracts/wide-receiver/

This season in Millions plus Practical Guarantees

Brown 17 19M
Evans 16.5 55M
Hopkins 16.2 49M
Watkins 16 30M
Cooks 16 20.5M
Landry 15.1 47M
Green 15 32.75M
Adams 14.5 30M
Jones 14.25 47M

[Valhalla]

Once Beckham is extended Julio will be #10. By next year he could be around 15. Poor chap

[ArrylT]

Once Beckham is extended Julio will be #10. By next year he could be around 15. Poor chap

Life is hard when you are a WR.

[thebeast]

Why the hell do these guys sign contracts that are any longer than the guaranteed money? Like if this was a 5 year 80 million deal with $30mil guaranteed over the first two years, just sign for two years. Is there a benefit I'm overlooking? The team can just cut you once they're beyond the guaranteed money and if they don't you are likely playing for less than current market value.

[Vcize]

Why the hell do these guys sign contracts that are any longer than the guaranteed money? Like if this was a 5 year 80 million deal with $30mil guaranteed over the first two years, just sign for two years. Is there a benefit I'm overlooking? The team can just cut you once they're beyond the guaranteed money and if they don't you are likely playing for less than current market value.

The team is probably willing to pay more guaranteed if you agree to sign for longer. Julio wants to get that benefit for signing longer to get the extra guarantees upfront, and now reneg on it now that the part he got back in exchange for signing longer is done.

[pvillebiker]

Yah, but teams aren't in the habit of guaranteeing 100% of contracts. Not for multi-years anyway. Unless you're Kirk Cousins that is.

If Julio is smart, he'll take the falcons up on their "wait 'til next year" offer. By then, OBJ will have reset the top end WR market closer to $20 mill / year. And his $14.2 mill a year will seem paltry by comparison.

[Ice]

Why the hell do these guys sign contracts that are any longer than the guaranteed money? Like if this was a 5 year 80 million deal with $30mil guaranteed over the first two years, just sign for two years. Is there a benefit I'm overlooking? The team can just cut you once they're beyond the guaranteed money and if they don't you are likely playing for less than current market value.

Pretty obvious, if players want big signing bonuses and guarantees they have to reciprocate with longer terms.

The premise that teams want to cut players is really backwards. They want to keep them provided they can play. If not then they may cut them depending on the cap hit.

The link I posted early lists the actual hard guarantee but also the practical guarantee which for all practical purposes will happen.

There is also ego in play. Julio signed the largest contract ever for a WR a few years ago. that big number matters plus they will earn 100% of it they remain productive.

[ArrylT]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300000 ... rt-to-camp

As expected?

[Valhalla]

He should be waiting one more year...or at least waiting for beckham to up the anti.

[FantasyFreak]

Coming off a 3 TD season. LOL. As the cap continues to go up, this is becoming more and more of a problem. At the time the deal was signed, it was very lucrative. GM's are going to have challenges as this seems to be a situation that is occurring more ofter.

[Cult of Dionysus]

Can't believe so many here are so dismissive and insensitive to Julio Jones' motivation. All the man wants to do is make sure he can feed his family! Food on the table, a solid roof over their heads, etc.

[eNdblu]

Yah, but teams aren't in the habit of guaranteeing 100% of contracts. Not for multi-years anyway. Unless you're Kirk Cousins that is.

If Julio is smart, he'll take the falcons up on their "wait 'til next year" offer. By then, OBJ will have reset the top end WR market closer to $20 mill / year. And his $14.2 mill a year will seem paltry by comparison.

How is it smart for Julio to wait until next year?

His window to get another lucrative deal is shrinking. He has 3 years left on his contract w/ none(?) of it guaranteed, so he's not a UFA until he's 32, after the 2020 season at which point the CBA expires and there could be a lockout.

OBJ right now is at the same point that Julio was back then. If anything, OBJ should look at these deals where elite players are getting nearly the entire contract guaranteed instead of looking at a huge deal attached w/ a whole bunch of back loaded funny money