Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc. (Updated 5/7/18)

General talk about Dynasty Leagues.
FantasyFreak
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5049
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:03 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:16 pm

Oil Boom wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:20 pm
Whoo, thanks for more opinions. I was hoping someone had experience in this department, haha.

Just an update (and I don’t want to turn this into a trade thread or anything), but the deal was offered and accepted (and is now awaiting league vetoes - if any). The only caveat was I had to add Tyrod Taylor (not a huge loss).

BTW - here is my current lineup (w/pending trade)
QB - Aaron Rodgers
RB - Alvin Kamara
RB - Jordan Howard
WR - DeAndre Hopkins
WR - Kenny Golladay
WR - Jermaine Kearse
TE - Jack Doyle
Flex - Tarik Cohen
Flex - 1.02

The depth is terrible in a 28 man roster. It’s riddled with players like JD McKissic, Mike Gillislee, Seth Roberts, Brian Hill, Christine Michael, and newly retired Danny Woodhead + Martellus Bennettt - who can’t be dropped until the Draft.

Now it’s time to hope the trade goes smooth and look over 1.03s roster. Thanks again, everyone!
You have just accepted another comment from Clarion by this statement, I think. Vetoes?!!!!! Are we not grown ups?

"Now, now, give your friend his toys back."

"But mo-oooom! We traded!"

"Do as your told!"

Don't we get enough of this crap in the work force!? Now people want to bring it into our spare time interests! :wtf: :crazy:

User avatar
Gtdano_14
Pro Bowler
Pro Bowler
Posts: 1380
Joined: Sat Apr 04, 2015 3:08 pm

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Gtdano_14 » Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:19 pm

^^lol. Well said.
16 Team PPR 1 QB - 2 RB - 2 WR - 1 TE - 1 Flex
QB- R.Wilson, C. Keenum, D. Webb
RB- D. Cook, C. Hyde, D. Murray, A. Jones, J.Charles, P. Barber, D. Mays, D. Jackson, R. Smith
WR- Dez, Julio, J. Doctson, C. Meredith, K.Stills, T. Boyd, K. Wright, M. Hollins, M. Thomas (LAR)
TE- J.Graham, T.Eifert, G. Kittle
Picks- 1.09, 3.05, 3.06, 3.12, 4.12

User avatar
clarion contrarion
Hall of Fame
Hall of Fame
Posts: 4714
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:11 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby clarion contrarion » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:51 pm

FantasyFreak wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 1:16 pm
Oil Boom wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 12:20 pm
Whoo, thanks for more opinions. I was hoping someone had experience in this department, haha.

Just an update (and I don’t want to turn this into a trade thread or anything), but the deal was offered and accepted (and is now awaiting league vetoes - if any). The only caveat was I had to add Tyrod Taylor (not a huge loss).

BTW - here is my current lineup (w/pending trade)
QB - Aaron Rodgers
RB - Alvin Kamara
RB - Jordan Howard
WR - DeAndre Hopkins
WR - Kenny Golladay
WR - Jermaine Kearse
TE - Jack Doyle
Flex - Tarik Cohen
Flex - 1.02

The depth is terrible in a 28 man roster. It’s riddled with players like JD McKissic, Mike Gillislee, Seth Roberts, Brian Hill, Christine Michael, and newly retired Danny Woodhead + Martellus Bennettt - who can’t be dropped until the Draft.

Now it’s time to hope the trade goes smooth and look over 1.03s roster. Thanks again, everyone!
You have just accepted another comment from Clarion by this statement, I think. Vetoes?!!!!! Are we not grown ups?

"Now, now, give your friend his toys back."

"But mo-oooom! We traded!"

"Do as your told!"

Don't we get enough of this crap in the work force!? Now people want to bring it into our spare time interests! :wtf: :crazy:
I didn't dig to deeply in to no no veto diatribe library but here you go ! :nono:



Re: Am I crazy to think this may be collusion?
Postby skip » Thu May 25, 2017 10:42 am

clarion contrarion wrote: ↑Thu May 25, 2017 10:20 am
The other owners are the last &%$#^*% PEOPLE WHO SHOULD DECIDE IF I CAN MAKE A TRADE , they have a conflict of interest automatically and only a handful of commissioners should be trusted with that authority . In the unlikely chance I wander into a league where vetoes are possible the first trade I get vetoed and I am out that day .
If you persist with an archaic veto process you alone should decide, as allowing owners to vote on trades is like allowing 2 wolves and a sheep vote on what is for dinner.
Clarion has some thread that ramble on but many of them contain great wisdom. Someone just needs to copy and paste this on every thread suggesting or asking if a veto vote is warranted.
.....this has been a public service announcement from forum superstar clarion contrarion



QB luck wentz foles dobbs
WR ant brown robinson evans watkins c davis amendola
RB l. bell mccoy howard mixon duke johnson b hill grant martin
TE eifert howard shaheen kroft G celek
K tucker DEF pittsburgh jacksonville
2012 , 2014 2015 2016 2017 ACDL Champion 4 IN A ROW 5 in 6 years now that is dynasty!
2013 ACDL runner up
2013 2014 & 2017 WORILDS OF HURT CHAMPION
2010 2014 & 2015 7 Rings for Steeltown CHAMPION 2011 & 2013 7 rings runner up
2018 startup - Dynasty Civil War- commish !- post combine draft
(tip of the cap to mark in michigan for that idea)
- half the league DLF members - draft will be posted to this site.
there is no after football
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
— Leonardo da Vinci

User avatar
clarion contrarion
Hall of Fame
Hall of Fame
Posts: 4714
Joined: Sun Feb 12, 2012 4:11 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby clarion contrarion » Sat Apr 21, 2018 2:56 pm

one more from the lexicon blame fantasy freak for getting me started on frigging vetoes and the wuss boy snowflakes that employ them !


Re: Veto this trade? (Poll)
Postby clarion contrarion » Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:10 pm

veto leagues are for whiners and amateurs , the solution for collusion is not veto but expulsion.
It is my team to run as I see fit ,I do not need or wish for your approval to manage my team.
When I am in a roster crunch situation I will happily "lose" a deal to gain what I see as a value upgrade at a position because if I cut a player then I get absolutely zero for him .

quiz time
If I have 3 cows and only have grazing room for two should I ?
a) give away the 3rd cow
b) butcher the cow and have a steak
c) call all my neighbors ask permission to trade the cow for a hay wagon and a goat
d) quit the wussy veto league and find a league with competent managers and enjoy the right to manage as I wish .
.....this has been a public service announcement from forum superstar clarion contrarion



QB luck wentz foles dobbs
WR ant brown robinson evans watkins c davis amendola
RB l. bell mccoy howard mixon duke johnson b hill grant martin
TE eifert howard shaheen kroft G celek
K tucker DEF pittsburgh jacksonville
2012 , 2014 2015 2016 2017 ACDL Champion 4 IN A ROW 5 in 6 years now that is dynasty!
2013 ACDL runner up
2013 2014 & 2017 WORILDS OF HURT CHAMPION
2010 2014 & 2015 7 Rings for Steeltown CHAMPION 2011 & 2013 7 rings runner up
2018 startup - Dynasty Civil War- commish !- post combine draft
(tip of the cap to mark in michigan for that idea)
- half the league DLF members - draft will be posted to this site.
there is no after football
Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication.
— Leonardo da Vinci

FantasyFreak
Legend
Legend
Posts: 5049
Joined: Fri Nov 07, 2014 1:03 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby FantasyFreak » Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:00 pm

Hear, Hear! :thumbup: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Weeman
Role Player
Role Player
Posts: 321
Joined: Thu Oct 06, 2016 6:55 pm

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Weeman » Sun Apr 22, 2018 4:06 am

Yeah never say vetoes around here. Lol

Thanks for posting roster, do you have 2.01,3.01 btw?

Solid trade return for 1.01, if I had that team in a 12 teamer I’d move 1.02 down for more picks. Your WRs after Hopkins are awful. A 3rd starting rb seems like your a playoff threat but those flex wrs will lose you games. I like the idea to move down i. Increments but I would be open to trading with everyone, you never know who is going to overpay. It also will give you a sense of how your new owners value players.

Troyte83
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 78
Joined: Thu May 21, 2015 8:05 pm

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Troyte83 » Sun Apr 22, 2018 9:06 am

I ended up trading into the 1.01 for 1.06, Derrick Henry and Evan Engram.

I have traded out of the 1.01 FOR

Todd Gurley
1.04
1.12
2019 2nd

Its a contract league so Gurley's value is slightly depressed due to his two year contract at 7 million this year and then 25 million next year, but it was too much value to pass up. I may end up trading back with the 1.04 to accumulate more back end 1sts and move the 1.12 for a 2019 1st.

A few of my ideas as I head into my draft in a few weeks. My team is in win now mode so I might just grab the impact player at 4 also.

User avatar
maxhyde
GOAT
GOAT
Posts: 10480
Joined: Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:06 pm
Location: Nashville

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby maxhyde » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:12 am

Oil Boom wrote:
Sat Apr 21, 2018 7:41 am
Hello all. This is my first offseason in Dynasty and I had such a good time this past season that I decided to take on an Orphan a couple months ago.

This team (12-TM, PPR) is pretty bad, but does have some good pieces to build around (DeAndre Hopkin and Alvin Kamara).

I also hold the 1.01, and was curious if anyone has experience in trading the 1.01 to the 1.02 Owner for a good chunk of change, and then turning to the 1.03 Owner and see if he wants to deal for the 1.02 (which I’ll assume is Guice).

I’ve talked to the 1.02 Owner and he noted that he would possibly give 1.02, Jordan Howard, Tarik Cohen, and Aaron Rodgers for the 1.01. This initial offer is what has me curious if I can keep trading down to accumulate talent instead of just outright trading Saquon for X package (which so far the offers have been underwhelming).

Thanks for any insight!
Just take it. I would take 1.02 and Rogers probably but to get all 3 + 1.02 is too good to turn down imo
DLF HOF League 16 team PPR
QB: Brees, Savage
RB: David Johnson, Bernard, MLynch, Morris, Ellington, Logan(IR),DJ Foster, JWilliams (2.14), McNichols(2.15), Tolbert
WR: DT, Jeffery,Cooper, Josh Gordon,Peake, Brice Butler, Switzer, KCole, Chester Rogers, Travis Rudolph, MFloyd
TE: Rudolph, Willson, Swaim, Jarwin, Hollister, Bucky Hodges
18 picks: 1.03, 2.14, 3.03

Oil Boom
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 175
Joined: Thu May 25, 2017 8:34 pm

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Oil Boom » Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am

^^^ Yep, I did take it although it was hard to give up Barkley. This was too good of a package.

OP here, and thought I’d give a little insight as I now have the 1.02 and have been talking trade to the 1.03 Owner.

I now have an offer of 1.03 + 1.05 for my 1.02. This was his best offer so far, and I’m halfway tempted.
This would put me at:
1.01
For
1.03, 1.05, Jordan Howard, Aaron Rodgers, and Tarik Cohen.
And I would be looking at dealing 1.03 to the 1.04 Owner, as he is a very trigger-happy Owner, especially when another deal is made.

Edit - and it was a bit funny how he responded (after initially saying he wasn’t interested yet) when a blurb came out that Sony Michel may have a worrisome injury history.

brofinator
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 76
Joined: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:46 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby brofinator » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:27 am

Oil Boom wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am
^^^ Yep, I did take it although it was hard to give up Barkley. This was too good of a package.

OP here, and thought I’d give a little insight as I now have the 1.02 and have been talking trade to the 1.03 Owner.

I now have an offer of 1.03 + 1.05 for my 1.02. This was his best offer so far, and I’m halfway tempted.
This would put me at:
1.01
For
1.03, 1.05, Jordan Howard, Aaron Rodgers, and Tarik Cohen.
And I would be looking at dealing 1.03 to the 1.04 Owner, as he is a very trigger-happy Owner, especially when another deal is made.

Edit - and it was a bit funny how he responded (after initially saying he wasn’t interested yet) when a blurb came out that Sony Michel may have a worrisome injury history.
Jesus Christ...... take it and run

Killabrewster
Rookie
Rookie
Posts: 78
Joined: Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:42 pm

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Killabrewster » Wed Apr 25, 2018 11:40 am

Oil Boom wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am
^^^ Yep, I did take it although it was hard to give up Barkley. This was too good of a package.

OP here, and thought I’d give a little insight as I now have the 1.02 and have been talking trade to the 1.03 Owner.

I now have an offer of 1.03 + 1.05 for my 1.02. This was his best offer so far, and I’m halfway tempted.
This would put me at:
1.01
For
1.03, 1.05, Jordan Howard, Aaron Rodgers, and Tarik Cohen.
And I would be looking at dealing 1.03 to the 1.04 Owner, as he is a very trigger-happy Owner, especially when another deal is made.

Edit - and it was a bit funny how he responded (after initially saying he wasn’t interested yet) when a blurb came out that Sony Michel may have a worrisome injury history.
My goodness. I'd agree to that deal even if the owner lived three time zones away and required me to sign off on it in person.
Last Place U: 12-team, .5 ppr, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 1 FLEX, 1 Def

QB: Tyrod Taylor, Pat Mahomes
RB: Joe Mixon, Saquon Barkley, Alex Collins, Ronald Jones, Kerryon Johnson, Rex Burkhead, D'Onta Foreman, Chris Carson
WR: Keenan Allen, Corey Davis, Sterling Shepard, Tyler Lockett, Devin Funchess, Josh Gordon, Martavis Bryant, Kenny Golladay
TE: Trey Burton, Tyler Eifert, Adam Shaheen

2018 picks: 2.05, 3.05, 3.07, 4.10
2019 picks: 1,1,2,3,4

Team 2: 12-team, 0 ppr, 1 QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, 1 TE, 2 FLEX, 1 Def

QB: Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Jameis Winston
RB: Joe Mixon, Rex Burkhead, D'Onta Foreman, Thomas Rawls
WR: Corey Davis, Juju Smith-Schuster, Mike Williams, Josh Gordon, Josh Doctson, Cooper Kupp, Martavis Bryant, Chris Godwin, Josh Reynolds
TE: Tyler Eifert, Evan Engram, David Njoku

2018 picks: 1.05, 1.06, 1.08, 2.05, 3.02, 3.05, 4.05
2019 picks: 1,1,2,2,3,3,4

Lotto4Life
Player of the Year
Player of the Year
Posts: 2010
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2012 8:48 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Lotto4Life » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:11 pm

Oil Boom wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 10:08 am
I now have an offer of 1.03 + 1.05 for my 1.02. This was his best offer so far, and I’m halfway tempted.
I'd trade the 1.02 for two mid-firsts in your position. To get 1.03 and 1.05 is as big of a steal as the initial trade. I'd then see if you can trade one of those picks for a solid WR2.

turcorox911
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 215
Joined: Mon Apr 23, 2018 2:44 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby turcorox911 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:17 pm

Take the Rodgers deal for sure.

Oil Boom
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 175
Joined: Thu May 25, 2017 8:34 pm

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby Oil Boom » Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:25 pm

Taking the 1.03 + 1.05 deal now.

Sorry if I turned this into a ‘trade thread’ or anything. Just thought it would be fun to show others about this method.

The trade to 1.04 (from 1.03) will be a bit of a challenge. Simply because I feel I can get the best RB not named Barkley or Guice - who lands in a good situation. I’m still gonna give it a go to continue this.

I really wish I would have done this sooner (pre-NFL Draft) since it may be hard to convince the 1.04 Owner to move up if his mindset is, “I can just take X here if X is gone).

Either way, thanks for listening and all the great comments. Much appreciated!

sammyz
Practice Squad
Practice Squad
Posts: 179
Joined: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:53 am

Re: Trading down from 1.01 to 1.02 to 1.03, etc.

Postby sammyz » Wed Apr 25, 2018 2:09 pm

Oil Boom wrote:
Wed Apr 25, 2018 12:25 pm
Taking the 1.03 + 1.05 deal now.

Sorry if I turned this into a ‘trade thread’ or anything. Just thought it would be fun to show others about this method.

The trade to 1.04 (from 1.03) will be a bit of a challenge. Simply because I feel I can get the best RB not named Barkley or Guice - who lands in a good situation. I’m still gonna give it a go to continue this.

I really wish I would have done this sooner (pre-NFL Draft) since it may be hard to convince the 1.04 Owner to move up if his mindset is, “I can just take X here if X is gone).

Either way, thanks for listening and all the great comments. Much appreciated!
At this point I might just hold the 1.03 and see if you can deal the 1.05 for some WR depth. See if you can turn the 1.05 into something like the 1.09 and Jordy Nelson, something like that?
QBs: Andrew Luck, Dak Prescott, Case Keenum
RBS: Todd Gurley, Christian McCaffrey, Duke Johnson, Elijah McGuire, Alex Collins, TJ Yeldon, Chris Ivory
WRS: Jordy Nelson, Juju Schuster-Smith, Stefon Diggs, Keenan Allen, Doug Baldwin, Chris Hogan, Quincy Enunwa, Keelan Cole, Geronimo Allison, Trent Taylor
TEs: Greg Olsen, Jack Doyle,Trey Burton
DEF: Eagles
K: Boswell

2018: 1.02, 1.07, 3.02, 3.07, 5.07


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: BigJoeWall72, Cabana, dynastyninja, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Jason, Shoreline Steamers, TheRookiePro and 9 guests